Comments on: Can Lebanon Handle Those Fancy Planes? http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/ Blogging Lebanese politics, business and society since 2005 Thu, 24 May 2012 20:18:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Gitanjali http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12848 Gitanjali Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:34:22 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12848 Hello Mustapha, Since yu write on Middle East strategic and politcal issues I thought you might be interested to know that Strategic Foresight Group is launching a report titled 'The Cost of Conflcit in the Middle East'. It is the first comprehensive report on the various costs of conflict in the region. We currently have some interesting excerpts of the report on our website. www.strategicforesight.com If you find the report interesting please write and let me know and I will send you more material. Hello Mustapha,

Since yu write on Middle East strategic and politcal issues I thought you might be interested to know that Strategic Foresight Group is launching a report titled ‘The Cost of Conflcit in the Middle East’.

It is the first comprehensive report on the various costs of conflict in the region. We currently have some interesting excerpts of the report on our website.
http://www.strategicforesight.com

If you find the report interesting please write and let me know and I will send you more material.

]]> By: Ali http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12847 Ali Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:26:02 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12847 Mustafa, if the Lebanese army had airplanes, don't you think that the military casualties would have been much smaller in the Naher Il Bared war? Don't you think that many lives would have been spared and saved? And as far things are going there might be new clashes with the other Palastenian camps. Ein il Hilweh camp is stronger, and crazier than Naher Il Bared. We should be ready for those camps, and these airplanes will be very handy when clashes with those fanatics break out. Although Russia is giving these airplanes to Lebanon as a way to get back to Isreal because of its involvment in Georgia, and giving hi-teck weapons to the Georgian army, these planes won't be of any use against Isreal, as you said they will either be destroyed in the first day or we will have to hide them in Cypress in case of a new war. They are worethless against Hizbullah and Syria since these elements can hit harder from the inside Lebanon using inside people. Until we get a real estimate about the expenses of these airplanes we shouldn't be so pacimistic about this deal. Mustafa,

if the Lebanese army had airplanes, don’t you think that the military casualties would have been much smaller in the Naher Il Bared war?
Don’t you think that many lives would have been spared and saved?
And as far things are going there might be new clashes with the other Palastenian camps. Ein il Hilweh camp is stronger, and crazier than Naher Il Bared. We should be ready for those camps, and these airplanes will be very handy when clashes with those fanatics break out.

Although Russia is giving these airplanes to Lebanon as a way to get back to Isreal because of its involvment in Georgia, and giving hi-teck weapons to the Georgian army, these planes won’t be of any use against Isreal, as you said they will either be destroyed in the first day or we will have to hide them in Cypress in case of a new war. They are worethless against Hizbullah and Syria since these elements can hit harder from the inside Lebanon using inside people.

Until we get a real estimate about the expenses of these airplanes we shouldn’t be so pacimistic about this deal.

]]> By: Rudy http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12846 Rudy Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:19:32 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12846 Dear Pessimits, My view is, an army has foot soldiers, air force and a navy. Everyone used to complain that lebanon has no air force. Now that we finally are getting a respected air force unit, we start attacking the idea and wish we have something else instead? I beleive having 10Mig29 is better than having zero. As for funding, let us cross that bridge when we get there. Hopefully we will get the sam missles that will protect it, but now I can see at least the start of a soon to be a strong army fit to defend the entire 10,452km2. Dear Pessimits,

My view is, an army has foot soldiers, air force and a navy.

Everyone used to complain that lebanon has no air force. Now that we finally are getting a respected air force unit, we start attacking the idea and wish we have something else instead? I beleive having 10Mig29 is better than having zero. As for funding, let us cross that bridge when we get there. Hopefully we will get the sam missles that will protect it, but now I can see at least the start of a soon to be a strong army fit to defend the entire 10,452km2.

]]> By: danny http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12845 danny Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:31:35 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12845 Lale..., Even if they are useless and worthless?...and a drain on the economy... What a logic! What does Lebanon get next that it does not have? a U boat?? Lale…,

Even if they are useless and worthless?…and a drain on the economy…
What a logic!
What does Lebanon get next that it does not have? a U boat??

]]> By: Lalebanessa http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12844 Lalebanessa Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:45:24 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12844 I'm not sure what everybody is complaining about, the formula is simple: -yesterday: no MiG's -today: lots of free MiG's who cares if the package isn't perfect, it's still better than we previously had which was ZERO. I’m not sure what everybody is complaining about, the formula is simple:

-yesterday: no MiG’s

-today: lots of free MiG’s

who cares if the package isn’t perfect, it’s still better than we previously had which was ZERO.

]]> By: Charlie http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12843 Charlie Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:32:16 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12843 If Lebanon ever takes delivery of these plans then this will be a big waste of money, and not to mention, it won’t be the best “bang” for their buck. For they will have no impact What so ever against the neighboring air forces. As far as internal conflicts, I would think attack helicopters are a more effective weapon than fixed wing jet fighters. I would say they never take delivery of these fighters. If Lebanon ever takes delivery of these plans then this will be a big waste of money, and not to mention, it won’t be the best “bang” for their buck. For they will have no impact
What so ever against the neighboring air forces. As far as internal conflicts, I would think attack helicopters are a more effective weapon than fixed wing jet fighters. I would say they never take delivery of these fighters.

]]> By: moussa http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12842 moussa Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:08:51 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12842 well put mustapha and frenchy has a point. i think switching a couple of those migs into firefighting planes to help put off those repetitive summer forest fires would have been more productive well put mustapha and frenchy has a point. i think switching a couple of those migs into firefighting planes to help put off those repetitive summer forest fires would have been more productive

]]> By: danny http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12841 danny Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:21:28 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12841 Mus, This is nothing but a PR move by Russia. Anyone want to take bets that they'll never reach Lebanon? For God's sakes they do not have enough funds for teachers, hospitals and even the International Tribunal. Lebanon is the street beggar of the world... What's the benefits from antiquated Migs? No Arab country can pretend to challenge the supremacy of israel in the air! If this is to strengthen the army, Russia should've have offered some military choppers equipped with rockets... Mus,

This is nothing but a PR move by Russia. Anyone want to take bets that they’ll never reach Lebanon?
For God’s sakes they do not have enough funds for teachers, hospitals and even the International Tribunal.
Lebanon is the street beggar of the world…
What’s the benefits from antiquated Migs?
No Arab country can pretend to challenge the supremacy of israel in the air! If this is to strengthen the army, Russia should’ve have offered some military choppers equipped with rockets…

]]> By: ghassan karam http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12840 ghassan karam Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:41:06 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12840 Mustapha, I have finished a 5 minutes Podcast on the same topic; prior to having seen your post on BS. You and some of your readers might want to give that a listen at: Ramblings11.mypodcast.com. Mustapha,
I have finished a 5 minutes Podcast on the same topic; prior to having seen your post on BS. You and some of your readers might want to give that a listen at: Ramblings11.mypodcast.com.

]]> By: leo http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/12/17/can-lebanon-handle-those-fancy-planes/#comment-12839 leo Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:21:15 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/?p=1628#comment-12839 I was under impression Russians are selling those jets. Now I hear they are giving it away. I am beginning to worry. I was under impression Russians are selling those jets. Now I hear they are giving it away.

I am beginning to worry.

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