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]]> By: Bronx-man http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105860 Bronx-man Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:50:34 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105860 The article, the letters - everything winds up with Hezbullah as the key element. Are they really? Let's slip Syria into the picture. If Israel tells Syria to keep their vicious pet (Hezbullah) in a cage the focal point shifts. Suppose Israel also tells Syria that they will pay a price the next time around. Things like rocket storage and factories, troop barracks, etc.; maybe their whole Air Force (again). No civilian targets. Where would Hez be without Syria? Essentially up shit horse creek without a paddle. So Iran gets upset. The U.S., at least, could exact a large price from Iran for getting aggresively involved. There are a lot of countries in the area that might make a public noise, but they would privately be pretty happy. Hez needs to keep its image (self created) up but probably would fold if Iran and Syria find it in their own best interests not to cross the line. The article, the letters – everything winds up with Hezbullah as the key element. Are they really? Let’s slip Syria into the picture. If Israel tells Syria to keep their vicious pet (Hezbullah) in a cage the focal point shifts. Suppose Israel also tells Syria that they will pay a price the next time around. Things like rocket storage and factories, troop barracks, etc.; maybe their whole Air Force (again). No civilian targets. Where would Hez be without Syria? Essentially up shit horse creek without a paddle. So Iran gets upset. The U.S., at least, could exact a large price from Iran for getting aggresively involved. There are a lot of countries in the area that might make a public noise, but they would privately be pretty happy. Hez needs to keep its image (self created) up but probably would fold if Iran and Syria find it in their own best interests not to cross the line.

]]> By: Hazbani http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105832 Hazbani Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:29:18 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105832 Just read IMMAK. As I said sad. But it seems IMMAK and his like, who are bad mouthing the USA, are looking forward to die for Iran. OK, but what about other Lebanese who want to live for their families and their dear one? and could not care one bit about Israel one way or the other,will he take them with him? will they join him with great joy? Just read IMMAK. As I said sad. But it seems IMMAK and his like, who are bad mouthing the USA, are looking forward to die for Iran. OK, but what about other Lebanese who want to live for their families and their dear one? and could not care one bit about Israel one way or the other,will he take them with him? will they join him with great joy?

]]> By: Hazbani http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105823 Hazbani Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:05:27 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105823 As I said I am Israeli. 1. This is a sad exchange. 2. It is a real situation I have been in war (several times)and war is hell, nothing new about that. 3.So spare me this "collateral damage" thing. Talk about dead people and burning cities. 4. F..., Ulmert, F... Barak spare me this ME "me bravest ape" bravado. I am bothered and I am scared. So are many Israelies. And some body in Lebanon, including the leaders of all the fine peace loving million Lebanese, is doing his best to bother me and scare me, and as is well known scared bothered people are becoming nasty, very nasty. 5. After all this Lebanese-Israeli talk one rocket into an Israeli Village 5 people killed, including children and all hell will break loose. 6. The rocket? pay a UN Italian or Indonesian or a Palestinian or who knows who, in Lebanon now? no problem. So any body who live in Israel or Lebanon should think about this one single missile before bombing Iran or the moon or the fifth star on the left in the milky way. 7. It will not be this depicable, sterile, politically correct, stupidity "collateral Damage". It will be hell. Go read Henry the 4th response to the ruller of France. 8. If any sane person in Lebanon is reading this please tell this to others, yes tell them Israelies are getting bothered and scared and this is a good reason for sane Lebanese to get scared too. As I said I am Israeli.
1. This is a sad exchange.
2. It is a real situation I have been in war (several times)and war is hell, nothing new about that.
3.So spare me this “collateral damage” thing. Talk about dead people and burning cities.
4. F…, Ulmert, F… Barak spare me this ME “me bravest ape” bravado. I am bothered and I am scared. So are many Israelies. And some body in Lebanon, including the leaders of all the fine peace loving million Lebanese, is doing his best to bother me and scare me, and as is well known scared bothered people are becoming nasty, very nasty.
5. After all this Lebanese-Israeli talk one rocket into an Israeli Village 5 people killed, including children and all hell will break loose.
6. The rocket? pay a UN Italian or Indonesian or a Palestinian or who knows who, in Lebanon now? no problem. So any body who live in Israel or Lebanon should think about this one single missile before bombing Iran or the moon or the fifth star on the left in the milky way.
7. It will not be this depicable, sterile, politically correct, stupidity “collateral Damage”. It will be hell. Go read Henry the 4th response to the ruller of France.
8. If any sane person in Lebanon is reading this please tell this to others, yes tell them Israelies are getting bothered and scared and this is a good reason for sane Lebanese to get scared too.

]]> By: IMMAK http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105819 IMMAK Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:56:52 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105819 Mustapha you low life, you are actually posting this article by this Firas Maksad who apoligetically advises the apartheid zionist sluts on the best course of action to take to defeat the resistance? you're such a sell-out you sucker of american cock. how does bush-dick taste, you weasel? in any case, it doesnt really matter since america will sell you out at the drop of a hat, as it has sold out its allies, er rather, its tools, in lebanon every time it was no longer feasible for it to spend any more money on them. you have been defeated in lebanon over and over and you will continue to be. your agenda in lebanon, tied at the toe to the agendas of america and israhell, has been dealt a decisive blow and will continue to be contained it the shoebox where it belongs, until israhell is no more. Mustapha you low life, you are actually posting this article by this Firas Maksad who apoligetically advises the apartheid zionist sluts on the best course of action to take to defeat the resistance? you’re such a sell-out you sucker of american cock. how does bush-dick taste, you weasel? in any case, it doesnt really matter since america will sell you out at the drop of a hat, as it has sold out its allies, er rather, its tools, in lebanon every time it was no longer feasible for it to spend any more money on them. you have been defeated in lebanon over and over and you will continue to be. your agenda in lebanon, tied at the toe to the agendas of america and israhell, has been dealt a decisive blow and will continue to be contained it the shoebox where it belongs, until israhell is no more.

]]> By: Guy http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105632 Guy Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:10:09 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105632 “would be for Lebanese and Israeli governments to work together..” <i>Shows me how realistic YOU are leo, and I really don’t care if you’re israeli or not….but you are taking their point of view..aren’t you?</i> VOR, I'm not sure I understand. You do talk to HA, although they are not your friends. Why would talking to Israel be "taking their point of view"? What is it that HA has in your eyes that Israelis don't? That they are Muslims? I don't see any other difference - neither HA nor Israel have your interests at heart. Or do you buy the HA line that they are defending YOUR interests in fighting Israel? If so, why should Israel not regard you as part and parcel of the problem that HA represents for us? “would be for Lebanese and Israeli governments to work together..”

Shows me how realistic YOU are leo, and I really don’t care if you’re israeli or not….but you are taking their point of view..aren’t you?

VOR, I’m not sure I understand. You do talk to HA, although they are not your friends. Why would talking to Israel be “taking their point of view”? What is it that HA has in your eyes that Israelis don’t? That they are Muslims? I don’t see any other difference – neither HA nor Israel have your interests at heart. Or do you buy the HA line that they are defending YOUR interests in fighting Israel? If so, why should Israel not regard you as part and parcel of the problem that HA represents for us?

]]> By: Solomon2 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105540 Solomon2 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:42:01 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105540 <i>I am not in denial, but no one is above reproach either.</i> Yes, you are in denial - you won't use your brain to consider that you could be doing something drastically different. And yes of course, some people are above reproach, the only question being one of degree. I am not in denial, but no one is above reproach either.

Yes, you are in denial – you won’t use your brain to consider that you could be doing something drastically different. And yes of course, some people are above reproach, the only question being one of degree.

]]> By: leo http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105461 leo Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:06:36 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105461 Out of fear of becoming annoying I concur. Out of fear of becoming annoying I concur.

]]> By: VOR http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105437 VOR Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:41:30 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105437 leo...let's put this one to bed. You have your "rational" opinion and I have mine. In the end, Israel will do what it wants regrdless of consequences to Lebanon and unfortunately the same can be said of HA. We're a country stuck between a rock and a hard place and yes, sad to say, by our own design...I am not in denial, but no one is above reproach either. I am done with this subject...nice debating with you and the others. leo…let’s put this one to bed. You have your “rational” opinion and I have mine. In the end, Israel will do what it wants regrdless of consequences to Lebanon and unfortunately the same can be said of HA. We’re a country stuck between a rock and a hard place and yes, sad to say, by our own design…I am not in denial, but no one is above reproach either. I am done with this subject…nice debating with you and the others.

]]> By: leo http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105420 leo Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:00:06 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105420 <i>"Shows me how realistic YOU are leo"</i> I suspected you will have problem with that. Well, until you will realize this is the only way I do not expect drastic change in the situation. <i>"I really don’t care if you’re israeli or not"</i> I know you do not but I also noticed you made an assumption in this regard so I decided to correct it. I do not want you to get confused however insignificant confusion might be. <i>"but you are taking their point of view"</i> It happens to be rational one. What do you object to exactly? “Shows me how realistic YOU are leo”

I suspected you will have problem with that. Well, until you will realize this is the only way I do not expect drastic change in the situation.

“I really don’t care if you’re israeli or not”

I know you do not but I also noticed you made an assumption in this regard so I decided to correct it. I do not want you to get confused however insignificant confusion might be.

“but you are taking their point of view”

It happens to be rational one. What do you object to exactly?

]]> By: VOR http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105408 VOR Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:20:26 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105408 "would be for Lebanese and Israeli governments to work together.." Shows me how realistic YOU are leo, and I really don't care if you're israeli or not....but you are taking their point of view..aren't you? “would be for Lebanese and Israeli governments to work together..”
Shows me how realistic YOU are leo, and I really don’t care if you’re israeli or not….but you are taking their point of view..aren’t you?

]]> By: leo http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105402 leo Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:03:56 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105402 <i>"if Israel couldn't do it, ... except that you couldn't care less about collateral damage, we do"</i> Israel could not do it precisely because of its concern for collateral damage. So, for you to say it really makes me wonder whether you are not familiar with reality or are trying to pull my leg (mildly put). Which is it? <i>"I am almost positive no one else can unless the whole country is destroyed…"</i> Based on what you said so far you pretty much believe HA will take over the country and will destroy it anyway. That is if nothing is done about it. Am I correct? <i>"we're stuck with them as much as you are,"</i> Not really. HA is not part of Israel and whether they will dare to attack Israel again remains to be seen. I could not care less how much they huff and puff as long as they stay on their side of the border and do not do anything stupid. <i>"realistic scenario,"</i> ... ... would be for Lebanese and Israeli governments to work together and not just wait for manna to fall from haven and hope to get by in the mean time. PS. To avoid future confusion, I am not Israeli. “if Israel couldn’t do it,
…
except that you couldn’t care less about collateral damage, we do”

Israel could not do it precisely because of its concern for collateral damage. So, for you to say it really makes me wonder whether you are not familiar with reality or are trying to pull my leg (mildly put). Which is it?

“I am almost positive no one else can unless the whole country is destroyed…”

Based on what you said so far you pretty much believe HA will take over the country and will destroy it anyway. That is if nothing is done about it. Am I correct?

“we’re stuck with them as much as you are,”

Not really. HA is not part of Israel and whether they will dare to attack Israel again remains to be seen. I could not care less how much they huff and puff as long as they stay on their side of the border and do not do anything stupid.

“realistic scenario,” …

… would be for Lebanese and Israeli governments to work together and not just wait for manna to fall from haven and hope to get by in the mean time.

PS. To avoid future confusion, I am not Israeli.

]]> By: VOR http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105369 VOR Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:02:25 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105369 "So, as far as you should be concerned you either do it yourself or hope for Nasrallah make his move against Israelis rather than against you." I wish Lebanon's army could stand up and break Hizbo to smithereens but it isn't a realistic scenario, if Israel couldn't do it, I am almost positive no one else can unless the whole country is destroyed...we're stuck with them as much as you are, except that you couldn't care less about collateral damage, we do. “So, as far as you should be concerned you either do it yourself or hope for Nasrallah make his move against Israelis rather than against you.”
I wish Lebanon’s army could stand up and break Hizbo to smithereens but it isn’t a realistic scenario, if Israel couldn’t do it, I am almost positive no one else can unless the whole country is destroyed…we’re stuck with them as much as you are, except that you couldn’t care less about collateral damage, we do.

]]> By: leo http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105362 leo Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:34:28 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105362 <i>"Looks like both Olmert and Barak were bothered enough to issue threats against everything and everyone in Lebanon!"</i> Consider it a wake up call and primarily for HA. And I have no doubt both of them are serious. What is interesting to me is the fact that you still avoiding dealing with reality. Still trying to hide behind words of Olmert and Barak and whoever else as long as you like what you hear. HA is your baby and whether you like it or not you will have to deal with it sooner or later. So, as far as you should be concerned you either do it yourself or hope for Nasrallah make his move against Israelis rather than against you. Are you betting man? “Looks like both Olmert and Barak were bothered enough to issue threats against everything and everyone in Lebanon!”

Consider it a wake up call and primarily for HA. And I have no doubt both of them are serious.

What is interesting to me is the fact that you still avoiding dealing with reality. Still trying to hide behind words of Olmert and Barak and whoever else as long as you like what you hear.
HA is your baby and whether you like it or not you will have to deal with it sooner or later.
So, as far as you should be concerned you either do it yourself or hope for Nasrallah make his move against Israelis rather than against you. Are you betting man?

]]> By: Solomon2 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/comment-page-1/#comment-105323 Solomon2 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:24:46 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/22/all-of-lebanon-is-not-hezbollah-by-firas-maksad/#comment-105323 MM, I don't share your optimistic appraisal of the situation. MM, I don’t share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.

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