Comments on: The Tripoli Explosion: Muslim Fundamentalists Or Syria? http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/ Blogging Lebanon since 2005 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:52:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Opikitoemiept http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12565 Opikitoemiept Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:58:52 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12565 Much the interesting has found here Much the interesting has found here

]]> By: Fundamentalists As Syrian Puppets | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12564 Fundamentalists As Syrian Puppets | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:46:06 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12564 [...] This leaves the door open for making one’s case on who benefits the most from the confrontation between the Lebanese Army and the Islamists. One line of thought, shared by most Tripolitans who support the Future Movement, is advanced by many editorialists, columnists in English and in Arabic, bloggers and commentators on this blog. [...] [...] This leaves the door open for making one’s case on who benefits the most from the confrontation between the Lebanese Army and the Islamists. One line of thought, shared by most Tripolitans who support the Future Movement, is advanced by many editorialists, columnists in English and in Arabic, bloggers and commentators on this blog. [...]

]]> By: Fundamentalists As Syrian Puppets | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12563 Fundamentalists As Syrian Puppets | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:46:01 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12563 [...] This leaves the door open for making one’s case on who benefits the most from the confrontation between the Lebanese Army and the Islamists. One line of thought, shared by most Tripolitans who support the Future Movement, is advanced by many editorialists, columnists in English and in Arabic, bloggers and commentators on this blog. [...] [...] This leaves the door open for making one’s case on who benefits the most from the confrontation between the Lebanese Army and the Islamists. One line of thought, shared by most Tripolitans who support the Future Movement, is advanced by many editorialists, columnists in English and in Arabic, bloggers and commentators on this blog. [...]

]]> By: Bronx-man http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12562 Bronx-man Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:55:13 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12562 Lebanon offers a great playing field for puzzle enthusiasts, conspiracy theorists and others with an enthusiasm for “who dunit?” type of challenges. There are a sufficient number of groups who profit from instability in the region and who feel that they will gain. The main players here are Syria, Hezbullah, Salafist gangs – all of the above, none of the above. Instability is derived from weakness and, given that the army is the supposed protector of the nation, they are an easy target. The army is weak (and there are a sufficient amount creepy, crawly types who want to make sure it stays that way) and that is reinforced big time by a government in name only. Somehow, in some way, Lebanon has to (magically and quickly) come up with a first class fighting force and security apparatus. Possibly, at this point in history, a military coup is preferential to democracy (or, in Lebanon’s case, total anarchy). Turkey is an example of one of the better types of a strong military keeping politicians on the straight and narrow. Not to worry. The Lebanese army is in no shape at present to carry out any form of an organized, efficient and successful operation involving far less complicated situations. The short term outlook looks bleak. Lebanon offers a great playing field for puzzle enthusiasts, conspiracy theorists and others with an enthusiasm for “who dunit?” type of challenges. There are a sufficient number of groups who profit from instability in the region and who feel that they will gain. The main players here are Syria, Hezbullah, Salafist gangs – all of the above, none of the above. Instability is derived from weakness and, given that the army is the supposed protector of the nation, they are an easy target. The army is weak (and there are a sufficient amount creepy, crawly types who want to make sure it stays that way) and that is reinforced big time by a government in name only. Somehow, in some way, Lebanon has to (magically and quickly) come up with a first class fighting force and security apparatus. Possibly, at this point in history, a military coup is preferential to democracy (or, in Lebanon’s case, total anarchy). Turkey is an example of one of the better types of a strong military keeping politicians on the straight and narrow. Not to worry. The Lebanese army is in no shape at present to carry out any form of an organized, efficient and successful operation involving far less complicated situations. The short term outlook looks bleak.

]]> By: Lebanese http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12561 Lebanese Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:44:59 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12561 It was fundamentalists, but fundamentalists controlled by Syria, same as Fatah al-Islam. Their strategy of destabilizing Tripoli is clear. The Sunnis in Lebanon form the backbone of the anti-Syrian March 14 Movement. If the Sunnis are split and broken down, the anti-Syrian camp in Lebanon will be in disarray, clearly to Syrian benefit. In the 1980's, the obstacle to Syrian domination in Lebanon was the Christian community. The Syrians successfully split them (Aoun-Geagea), and as a result, obtained full control over Lebanon, and the Christians in Lebanon have yet to recover from this. The same thing is happening today. The obstacle to the return of Syrian hegemony in Lebanon is the Sunni Community. The Christians and Druze in this alliance are vitally important, but the Sunni's are its backbone and main strength. Thus, we are seeing a repeat of the 1980's here. The Syrians want to split and thus weaken the Sunnis, which will allow them to regain their hegemony over Lebanon. The Future Movement is well aware of this, but it is a very delicate situation, and the Syrians have many cards to play. It was fundamentalists, but fundamentalists controlled by Syria, same as Fatah al-Islam.

Their strategy of destabilizing Tripoli is clear. The Sunnis in Lebanon form the backbone of the anti-Syrian March 14 Movement. If the Sunnis are split and broken down, the anti-Syrian camp in Lebanon will be in disarray, clearly to Syrian benefit.

In the 1980′s, the obstacle to Syrian domination in Lebanon was the Christian community. The Syrians successfully split them (Aoun-Geagea), and as a result, obtained full control over Lebanon, and the Christians in Lebanon have yet to recover from this.

The same thing is happening today. The obstacle to the return of Syrian hegemony in Lebanon is the Sunni Community. The Christians and Druze in this alliance are vitally important, but the Sunni’s are its backbone and main strength. Thus, we are seeing a repeat of the 1980′s here. The Syrians want to split and thus weaken the Sunnis, which will allow them to regain their hegemony over Lebanon.

The Future Movement is well aware of this, but it is a very delicate situation, and the Syrians have many cards to play.

]]> By: Rob Bitar http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12560 Rob Bitar Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:55:05 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12560 There are many parties both internal and external who have motives to commit this heinous act. I doubt thought that the fundamentalists are behind this cowardly attack. Syria could be the culprit with Lebanese hands and agents. This is a message to the citizens of Tripoli, the security forces and the president of Lebanon. One question needs to be asked: Who benefits the most from chaos and weak military and civil institutions in Lebanon? The answer is clear! There are many parties both internal and external who have motives to commit this heinous act. I doubt thought that the fundamentalists are behind this cowardly attack.

Syria could be the culprit with Lebanese hands and agents. This is a message to the citizens of Tripoli, the security forces and the president of Lebanon.

One question needs to be asked: Who benefits the most from chaos and weak military and civil institutions in Lebanon?

The answer is clear!

]]> By: Andrew the American http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12559 Andrew the American Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:00:59 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12559 " YOU MAY BE A TALIBAN....IF......." (be carfull lebanon - this may be you someday) 1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to beer. 2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can't afford shoes. 3. You have more wives than teeth. 4. You wipe your butt with your bare left hand, but consider bacon 'unclean. 5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide. 6. You can't think of anyone you haven't declared Jihad against. 7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing. 8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs. 9. You've ever uttered the phrase, 'I love what you've done with your cave. 10. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least one. 11. You bathe at least monthly whether necessary or not. 12. You've ever had a crush on your neighbor's goat. ” YOU MAY BE A TALIBAN….IF…….”

(be carfull lebanon – this may be you someday)

1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to beer.

2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can’t
afford shoes.

3. You have more wives than teeth.

4. You wipe your butt with your bare left hand, but consider bacon
‘unclean.

5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.

6. You can’t think of anyone you haven’t declared Jihad against.

7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.

8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.

9. You’ve ever uttered the phrase, ‘I love what you’ve done with your cave.

10. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least one.

11. You bathe at least monthly whether necessary or not.

12. You’ve ever had a crush on your neighbor’s goat.

]]> By: anon http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12558 anon Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:29:05 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12558 March 14th's Al Qaida proxy is obviously responsible. You're a liar for suggesting it could be syria, who would have no interest in bombing a military bus. March 14th’s Al Qaida proxy is obviously responsible. You’re a liar for suggesting it could be syria, who would have no interest in bombing a military bus.

]]> By: VOR http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12557 VOR Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:01:47 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12557 There is an ongoing effort to keep Tripoli in a chaotic state and it is definitely a challenge to the Sunnis as much as the army and security forces to keep things under control, but the more that these things happen the more likely that the conflict will degenrate into more chaos and bloodshed. There is an ongoing effort to keep Tripoli in a chaotic state and it is definitely a challenge to the Sunnis as much as the army and security forces to keep things under control, but the more that these things happen the more likely that the conflict will degenrate into more chaos and bloodshed.

]]> By: Rollen http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12556 Rollen Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:40:53 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/13/the-tripoli-explosion-muslim-fundamentalists-or-syria/#comment-12556 aren't you giving the fundie's too much credit here? first who the hell bombs his community and support base? secondly the only fundy ass-hats who talk the talk and walk the walks are in iraq. tripoli "incidents" started when they (sunni's) clashed with their northern neighbors. this paranoia against handful of bearded cross-dressers is humorous aren’t you giving the fundie’s too much credit here?

first who the hell bombs his community and support base? secondly the only fundy ass-hats who talk the talk and walk the walks are in iraq. tripoli “incidents” started when they (sunni’s) clashed with their northern neighbors.

this paranoia against handful of bearded cross-dressers is humorous

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