Comments on: Even Islamists Deserve The Rule Of Law http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/ Blogging Lebanese politics, business and society since 2005 Thu, 24 May 2012 20:18:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Recent Links Tagged With "guantanamo" - JabberTags http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12554 Recent Links Tagged With "guantanamo" - JabberTags Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:19:54 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12554 [...] public links >> guantanamo Even Islamists Deserve The Rule Of Law Saved by bhuvanrajt on Sat 11-10-2008 Diane Farsetta: Cracking the Pentagon Pundit Code Saved by [...] [...] public links >> guantanamo Even Islamists Deserve The Rule Of Law Saved by bhuvanrajt on Sat 11-10-2008 Diane Farsetta: Cracking the Pentagon Pundit Code Saved by [...]

]]> By: Solomon2 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12553 Solomon2 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:45:36 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12553 Pardon me, VOR, I'm not "on a high horse", I'm just ignorant! I didn't ask who or what was responsible for "law and state preservation", I asked is there some individual who can be held accountable for suspending HC, who can be fired if the people demand it? If so, by whom? Or is it somebody elected? (President Lincoln suspended habeus corpus for part of the American Civil War.) I understand that firing people with public-sector jobs in Lebanon isn't always easy - that's what prompted Hezb to hit the streets in May. Pardon me, VOR, I’m not “on a high horse”, I’m just ignorant! I didn’t ask who or what was responsible for “law and state preservation”, I asked is there some individual who can be held accountable for suspending HC, who can be fired if the people demand it? If so, by whom? Or is it somebody elected? (President Lincoln suspended habeus corpus for part of the American Civil War.) I understand that firing people with public-sector jobs in Lebanon isn’t always easy – that’s what prompted Hezb to hit the streets in May.

]]> By: VOR http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12552 VOR Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:55:24 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12552 Exactly Ali. These people have no concept of fairness or the slightest consideration for human life...to them human beings are to be used as cannon fodder to accomplish their "barbarian" schemes. How can you deal in fairness with people like that? We can't as a nation, compromise with them, or else they'll destroy us. Solomon2, Get off your high horse! I did mention the army and internal security forces which ARE responsible for enforcing the law and preserving the state from external dangers...they are under attack just because they represent the state's authority to these mongrols. Exactly Ali. These people have no concept of fairness or the slightest consideration for human life…to them human beings are to be used as cannon fodder to accomplish their “barbarian” schemes. How can you deal in fairness with people like that? We can’t as a nation, compromise with them, or else they’ll destroy us.

Solomon2,

Get off your high horse! I did mention the army and internal security forces which ARE responsible for enforcing the law and preserving the state from external dangers…they are under attack just because they represent the state’s authority to these mongrols.

]]> By: Ali http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12551 Ali Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:12:32 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12551 It is hard to think this way after today's explosion in Tripoli. The question is, are we dealing with humans here? or barbarians? It is hard to think this way after today’s explosion in Tripoli.

The question is, are we dealing with humans here? or barbarians?

]]> By: Solomon2 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12550 Solomon2 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:24:11 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12550 "there are times when those that don’t respect the rule of the law nor the virtues of a democratic society ought to get a dose of their own medicine!" I think you've missed something here, VOR. Who, exactly, makes that decision? Who can be held accountable for it? If the answers are "no one" then are you not citizens in your own country, but merely puny subjects of the government? “there are times when those that don’t respect the rule of the law nor the virtues of a democratic society ought to get a dose of their own medicine!”

I think you’ve missed something here, VOR. Who, exactly, makes that decision? Who can be held accountable for it? If the answers are “no one” then are you not citizens in your own country, but merely puny subjects of the government?

]]> By: doodad http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12549 doodad Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:36:54 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12549 ado, how can a country which has embraced Hezb ever end up with an incorrupt legal system? The country according to the newest dictates is now one big "resistance," which precludes universal justice since there is this great big stay out of jail card. To try and build something real on top of that is a fool's errand. And of course before it was this it was that, and that, and that over there. ado, how can a country which has embraced Hezb ever end up with an incorrupt legal system? The country according to the newest dictates is now one big “resistance,” which precludes universal justice since there is this great big stay out of jail card. To try and build something real on top of that is a fool’s errand.

And of course before it was this it was that, and that, and that over there.

]]> By: VOR http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12548 VOR Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:43:39 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12548 "Habeas Corpus" can also be suspended when the security of the state is credibly at stake. There is a reason why these people are in jail, they conspired against the authority of the state (army and internal security) and I am pretty sure there is a case against each one. I am not against a fair trial, but there are times when those that don't respect the rule of the law nor the virtues of a democratic society ought to get a dose of their own medicine! “Habeas Corpus” can also be suspended when the security of the state is credibly at stake. There is a reason why these people are in jail, they conspired against the authority of the state (army and internal security) and I am pretty sure there is a case against each one. I am not against a fair trial, but there are times when those that don’t respect the rule of the law nor the virtues of a democratic society ought to get a dose of their own medicine!

]]> By: Ado http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12547 Ado Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:55:01 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12547 The problem is that our judicial system is rotten,and corrupted....Maybe it's in some politicians benefit not getting those accused to a fair trial,coz they are involved... Remeber"Every Accused Is Innocent Till Proven Guilty".... And Steif those veiled women where encouraged before so they can fight "Wilayat L Fakih",and do u still remember that there is a political partie,called 7ezb L Tahrir,that was legalized by Ahmad Fatfat,and that is totally illegal coz it doesn't believe oppenly in Lebanon,and consider it a "wilaya" in the big islamic oumma...Why is this party is still doing all his activities oppenly,and in every tripolitain citizen's face without anyone doing something to stop it.... The problem is that our judicial system is rotten,and corrupted….Maybe it’s in some politicians benefit not getting those accused to a fair trial,coz they are involved…
Remeber”Every Accused Is Innocent Till Proven Guilty”….
And Steif those veiled women where encouraged before so they can fight “Wilayat L Fakih”,and do u still remember that there is a political partie,called 7ezb L Tahrir,that was legalized by Ahmad Fatfat,and that is totally illegal coz it doesn’t believe oppenly in Lebanon,and consider it a “wilaya” in the big islamic oumma…Why is this party is still doing all his activities oppenly,and in every tripolitain citizen’s face without anyone doing something to stop it….

]]> By: Solomon2 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12546 Solomon2 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:46:10 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12546 What, no <i>habeus corpus</i>? What, no habeus corpus?

]]> By: Mustapha http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12545 Mustapha Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:34:41 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/08/12/even-islamists-deserve-the-rule-of-law/#comment-12545 Hey Dave Long time! @ Daily Star: Tell me about it! I even had to fix some typos when I was quoting the statement! As for the generals, I am viscerally against letting them go, although perhaps to stay congruous I might want to accept such an eventuality.. As for the other guys, Please try to keep this forum civil Hey Dave Long time!

@ Daily Star: Tell me about it! I even had to fix some typos when I was quoting the statement!

As for the generals, I am viscerally against letting them go, although perhaps to stay congruous I might want to accept such an eventuality..

As for the other guys,
Please try to keep this forum civil

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