Comments on: Hezbollah's Independent 'Foreign Policy' Forges Ahead

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Last Week Recap | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:39:47 +0000

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By: Darko

Darko — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:33:27 +0000

Fuziyad, you’re still not getting where i’m coming from, Bashir is not the victim of imperialism, Sudan is. Bashir’s forces did committed atrocities, all what i’m saying is that so did the other side(SLA), its a civil war, things like that happens in civil wars, my point that the west does not care about that, all what they care about is getting this conflict to be classified as a genocide because that would imply imposing lots of sanctions on Sudan. And to prove to you that the west doesn’t care about what’s happening in Darfur, lets take the humanitarian crisis in that area for example, Darfurians are in need of lots of supplies witch the international community(west) “supposedly” wants to give away to the darfurian, only the problem according to the US and others is that the roads to the area are in bad shape and full of armed bandits making airplane drop-offs the only way to get the supplies in, using that as the execuse of why they’re not sending anything, yet the US was capable of transferring hundreds of thousands of troops with millions of tons in food supplies to Iraq in less then a month in 2003, remember that the conflict in Darfur has been raging way before that. That’s hypocrisy 101 for you.
Again, i’m not saying that Bashir is the good guy here, the man is a butcher, but standing up against the ICJ court order is standing up for Sudan cause its implication will be affecting Sudan primarily. As for Hezbollah stand, they see it differently, because they look at it for an Islamic perspective, after all, bashir has enforced Shariaa law and is an ally of Iran, but still you’ll find many other “non religious” movement supporting Bashir while knowing his true nature, not because they love him, but because of what he represents as the president of Sudan, and the implication of his conviction on that country.

Now to your karazic question.
Do you always like to jump into conclusions, you really dont know me and dont know my background, you just read a couple of comments from me and already assumed my position on most of the global issues. I’m not guna go into details about the Yugoslavian dilema. But if you wanna know my position, , i wrote an article about the issue, after the declaration of kosovo’s independence.
http://www.handalablogs.com/2008/02/kosovo-a-new-imperialist-front/

BTW, i take my position based on my nationalist, secular, socialist, and general leftist ideology, i’m an atheist, so bashir being the hero of my umma is a long shot.

I would just like to add, that you should be ashamed of yourself for stereotyping people, you represent everything bad in the Lebanon. People like you stick what they’re constantly hearing in their surrounding and the directed media, swallow all the BS then create mental blocks against any other point of views, whether 8M or 14M, people have become so brainwashed that they no longer understand the point from accepting the other and trying to get the real truth without getting involved in petty internal politics and basing their opinion on that and not the truth

By: Bronx-man

Bronx-man — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:36:33 +0000

“We in Hezbollah are honored to meet with you today in defense of a
national, pan-Arab, and Islamic cause, which is to stand side by side with our brothers in Sudan – leadership and people.”

Given the Hezbullah mentality of delusions of grandeur and for thinking outside the box (way outside) their pronouncement for support of the government of Sudan is not so surprising. These are the same people who decided to give Samir Kuntar a “heroes” welcome.

As Hezbullah control slowly strangles Lebanon and sends it down the rabbit hole (a flushing toilet is probably more applicable) their counterparts in the government and the army stand by and do nothing. Fundamentalist madness has teamed up with fundamental cowardice to destroy the country. What can the future bring? I would count on the al-Qaeda types filtering back in to Lebanon to counter Iranian ideology, for one. There would be no taking a fixed position to battle the army – more a case of mobile suicide units that they seem to specialize in. Syria, who specializes in attempts to de-stabilize Lebanon would be waiting in the wings to rush in to “bring order”. Hezbullah would be put on a tight leash and thanked for their role in giving Syria an excuse to invade. In the meantime Israel would be standing by to check any activity that would affect its own security. Quite a mix.

All in all Lebanon is far and away the most promising candidate in the competition to win the coveted “Dr Kevorkian Award for Self Assisted Suicide”.

By: Fuziyad

Fuziyad — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:28:09 +0000

Darko, you are right, genocide probably wasn’t the a appropriate word to describe what happenned in sudan. Still, many massacres were committed under instructions from your hero of the umma, victim of imperialism Omar el bashir…

btw am curious to know if you have an opinion on karazic arrest?? dunno why but I have the feeling that when it comes to him the international community is ok for you.

Let me know…

By: Darko

Darko — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:03:24 +0000

Fuziyad, So that’s what you got from what i said, that i’m defending genocide. Your thinking capacities amazed me, here i am thinking that i’m talking to person with brains but it seems i highly over estimated you. Genocide is when one race goes on a killing rampage against another race, like what happened in Nazi Germany and Yugoslavia. In darfur, everybody is black and most of the people killing each other are muslim, thus what’s happening there is not genocide, its a civil war where war crimes are being committed by both sides against each other SLA vs. Janjaweed(gov.). the whole political battle here revolves around tagging the conflict with the term genocide. I’m not defending genocide, and if you read the article i wrote you would have understood what i’m saying, but clearly you were more interesting in reading the two lines here, making your own conclusion and hoping for my sister to get raped, witch i’m gona ignore, since ma fi 3atab 3lek.

It’s just so damn funny, how the Lebanese people (14 and immediately takes side according to their respective line, now every Lebanese that reads this article and the comments will side with Fuziyad if he’s a 14Mer and Mr wonderful if he’s an 8Mer without even thinking about looking up info about the issue and understanding what its all about

By: Fuziyad

Fuziyad — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:50:08 +0000

Darko…

you quote yourself and you are proud…

Let’s say u are right abt yr oil bullshit(is China a sharif country???) does this justify what happened there???????????

What about Iraq?? when a sunni kills shia civilians(not to say the opposite way) is it the americans pulling the trigger??

After few times writing more and deleting it I wonder how I can allow myself to debate with someone defending a genocide. That’s beyond my capacities, never thought I would have to debate with someone arguing that killing civilians is legitimate because the americans MAY have intervened at some stage…

again, wanted to insult you but nothing is strong enough to describe what I feel about people like you…just deeply hope your sister gets raped one of these days by some anti imperialists…

By: Darko

Darko — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:52:14 +0000

Fuziyad, its funny you should mention that, cause yes, the crisis of Darfur are part of an imperialist plot to gain international consent on calling what happening in that area a genocide in order to place a blockade on Sudan’s oil exports to china, thus preserving it to western companies when a more western-friendly government takes over power. Very similar to what happened in Iraq.
Here i wrote about this a couple weeks back
http://www.handalablogs.com/2008/07/understanding-africa-darfurs-conflict/

By: Darko

Darko — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:45:27 +0000

Ok, i’m clearly missing the point here, the only answer i can think of in reply to this post is: SO WHAT?!!
A party holds a meeting and declares a stand regarding an international (if not to say Arab) issue. Would you go telling the PSP or the LCP not to take part in a socialist convention, or would you have a problem if the Nasserite movements in Lebanon held a meeting in Lebanon with the rest of the Nasserite movements in the Arab world and took some decisions regarding an Arab issue. This here is the same case. Most parties in Lebanon do that, because most of them carry ideologies that go beyond Lebanon.
As for this specific issue, the court order against Al Bashir. Lebanon should stand with Sudan, because that country tried helping us by sending many delegates here in an attempt to reconcile the differences between the ruling parties. If anything, Mr. Harriri should try to pull some strings and try to help Sudan; at least that’s what his father would have done. But really, what can we really expect from the guy that sent the Iraqi people a letter congratulating them for getting rid of Saddam.
Hey Mus, have you noticed that lots Zionists are finding your blog more and more friendly, it seems that no post of yours can pass without a couple of Israelis agreeing with you. I guess that’s your way of resisting wilayet al faqih; following Churchill’s “the enemy of my enemy if my friend” theory. Honestly, you have changed a lot during these three years, you have changed course and I can no longer distinguish your writing from that of N10452 over at ouwet.com and I bet you’ll take this as a compliment, It’s not.
You’ve deleted my comments before, its ok, because this one is dedicated to you

By: Solomon2

Solomon2 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:52:05 +0000

Don’t you think you have it backwards, Mustapha? Given Hezb’s role as “The Resistance” and its veto power, shouldn’t the question be, “Why does Lebanon have a foreign policy independent of Hezbollah?” Indeed, giving Hezb the Foreign Ministry would make a lot of sense.

By: Lira

Lira — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:23:16 +0000

The Arab League (including Lebanon) has adopted a similar position towards Bashir..