I’m not too thrilled either by the Kuntar celebration, but of course you’d prefer to list pro-March 14 bloggers, rather than the art of non-politically affiliated blogs, such as +961.

Regardless, you mentioned, In short, many Lebanese, just like many foreigners just don’t “get” what there is to celebrate..
Mustapha, There is So Much To Celebrate… Lebanon has closed its file of Lebanese Prisoners of War in Israel. To be blunt, As a Sunni, you should look at it as one excuse less for Hezbollah to keep its arms. As a Lebanese, be happy we’re getting closer to regaining our rights, and fulfilling UNSR 1701.

is there a video on the internet that covers the whole prison swap? i dont live in the middle east, so i am in the dark here.. :(

The issue of Hezb is not something one can look at “as a Sunni”. The fact is that 1701 now places the international community as an arbiter of internal Lebanese affairs.

This means that the disarming of militias is an international affair. And if Lebanon fails to do so, it is Lebanon which will become a pariah state.

Mr. “Divine Victory” (A.K.A Hassouna) said today while kissing Mr. Kuntar that “it is for you we did the last war”!!!

I love this guy’s honesty. I thought he always said he did not “mean” to do war in 2006. Is this an admission????

http://lebpatriot.blogspot.com/2008/07/for-you-we-did-last-war.html

In a Utopian world I would certainly be unconformable, to say the least for the return of someone who has killed a child if the claims and details are clear. i am not disputing claims, yet not totally believing them since i am not aware of the case.

yet in our world i look across the border south and I see the child killers, be it with advanced technology and literal clean hands, being touted as heroes and fighters of the evils. How many in their cabinet or officials or presidents or prime ministers have killed children and innocent people!

i am not fooled by the moral high ground posturing….. but i am impressed by the brazen attitude and PR work which in the Utopian world would be also pitiful.

Yes, there are a few actual humans living in Lebanon. I thank them from the bottom of my heart for remaining human in Lebanon.

The rest proved themselves to be barbarians so monstrous I cannot bring myself to call them human.

Anyone cheering a monster - who killed a little girl’s father in front of her eyes and then smashed her head in with a rifle butt, an unrepentant monster who would do it all again today - anyone cheering such a monster is a monster.

And when I read people trying to excuse Kuntar for being a monster and themselves for being monsters…

I am disgusted beyond words. Lebanon got what it deserved - a monster for a nation of monsters.

I do not see why I would be unhappy to see kuntar back to lebanon when one of child’s murder got 2 seats inside the new governement. (Geagea killed Sleiman Franjieh 2 years old sister)
so If Saniora welcomed Kuntar … it is not a surprise at all when half of his new cabinet are war criminals

We’re celebrating what exactly? a child killer? Hell he didnt even “fight” under a lebanese banner!! Shame shame on this mascarade being carried out and shame on the M14th figure who’re contributing to this. Why do we insist on sending out a message that we deserve everything being done to us because we cheer and adhere to violence???!!!!???!!!??

It Never occurs to “The party of god” that god is watching…and is disgusted

The “deal” was brilliant israeli “subterfuge”…look at what hezbo makes “Heros”…makes any action against them justified

seirously, just admit its HA’s moment….hec, even M14 want to be of HA celebration, formost is the ‘ally’ you thought (follishly) you could count: Mr Jumblatt.

Shows why M14 simply cannot work: too many loonies in the room.

Yes the shiia are having theor glory and victory in lebanon, but as long as they dont impose it on me, they can celebrate all they want, yet i still say kudos to all resistance forces, as this is what Martyr Hairiri used to say too.

I just hope i can get a nice bite to eat at the celebrations, and smoke some sisha.

Time to party people-its what only unites us lebs and what we do best :)

…”Lebanon has closed its file of Lebanese Prisoners of War in Israel. To be blunt, As a Sunni, you should look at it as one excuse less for Hezbollah to keep its arms. As a Lebanese, be happy we’re getting closer to regaining our rights, and fulfilling UNSR 1701″…

What a crock of shit!! With stupid logic like that we’re looking for a bright future. I can smell the OJ miles away! Praise the Child Killer and find an excuse to “justify” it!! Ya salam!!!

lets just imagine for a second, that this guy, Quntar, didnt kill the 4 yr old girl… (if he did in the first place ), would you be cheering his return then?? i dont think so.. the truth is you people secretly wish for the failure of HA, in every aspect possible..

you seem to forget, the thousands of palestinians and lebanese butchered at the hands of israel… many, MANY of them children… but why should we remember that, right? cuz they used cluster bombs, or planes or tanks, that makes it ok?

suddenly, they are the moral ppl, and they should be applauded ?

you guys applaud all you want, wave to them the next time they bomb our bridges & kill thousands of our civilians, these honorable people..

Quntar was 17 when he was taken, 17. what were you doing at 17? personally, i dont like violence, and i dont think it will bring us the required result in the end, but if some of our own, give some back to our enemy, let them feel some of the pain they caused thousands of lebanese mothers and fathers, then i say, hell, lets rub it in , lets laugh for once while the real animals cry

oh lebanon! my stomach turns for you.
I like to think of myself as a reasonable person. I know that in times of war, a persons thought process can be clouded by revenge in matters that involve the killing of an enemy in battle and the joy one feels when an enemy is vanquished. That being said I can’t see any reasonable explanation anyone would celebrate, embrace and welcome a man that gleefully smashes the skull of a four year old girl. as much as I hate Osama Bin Laden I would imprison or execute a soldier for smashing his 4 year old daughter to death. the sad thing is that the man who’s daughter was killed moments after he was killed was just a police man who’s only crime was that he was born in israel. this is a sad day for lebanon indeed

The folks over at NOW LEbanon seem to have a different reading of “official Lebanon’s” pro-Hezbo histrionics. I want to believe this was some shrewed political sleigh of hand on the part of the Cedar Revolution… but they’ve done nary a move in the past 3 years that even hints to political savvy, let alone committment to Lebanon.

As far as Lebanon’s leaders demonstrate, they are not celebrating the return of a murderer, but are embracing the cause of someone who has shown that he is dedicated to the destruction of an immediate neighbor, right down to the very last child.

I will remember this if the day ever comes that “innocent” Lebanese survivors cry out that their cities, villages, and relatives have been turned to ashes, and demand compensation, pity, or - horror of horrors - justice.

Just three points:

1) Samir Kuntar is a hero, if not for his acts, then for the fact that he has not broken in Zionist jail over these decades. What strength and resolve!

2) Everyone in “Israel” serves in the military. Thus, Kuntar ambushed not a “family,” but soldiers, even if they were on reserve duty.

3) That girl would have grown up to be a Zionist. One less Zionist equals so much the better world. Plus, so he smashed her head on the rocks (if he did). She would have been doing the same to Palestinians a few years later in comabt boots. It’s a preemptive strike, you know, like the US did with Iraq….

Arabs, Muslims - stop groveling! Time to wake up. No mercy for the occupiers! I wish for a thousand Kuntars, so the Zionists would feel the pain the Lebanese, Palestinians, and other Arabs have felt at the hand of the Zionists. Destroy their homes and kill their loved ones, so they will leave Palestine and go back to wherever they came from.

No mercy for the occupiers!

If Israel thought that way, then much of the Arab World would have been reduced to dust and ashes by now. When one realizes just how much mercy and good works the Jews of Israel have for those who wish their destruction, the moral comparison takes ones breath away.

Therefore I suppose that a big part of the problem Arabs have with Israel is that they feel if they didn’t condemn the Zionist Entity every day, they they’d have to pay homage to it. That was “crazy” Gaddafi’s argument two months ago in Damascus, anyway.

Muntaqim, you Arabs should be the last people on earth complaining about occupation, bud. Please tell me you don’t think your 7th century Arab conquest of the Middle East happened in a vacuum!
Please don’t tell me you don’t think you people are colonizers, invaders, usurpers, and suppressors of other cultures in your own right. Hell, you people wrote the users-guide, the ultimate “how to” of destruction, oppression, expropriation and erasure of the cultures you conquered. Unlike your sandbox Arabia, the Near East was brimming with illustrious cultures and civilizations before you guys came along, massacred and parched the region. Please shut it, Muntaqim, and try thinking about “building” rather than destroying and “exacting revenge”. Pathetic loser! And a whiner to top it off.

Who needs cowards if these are the kinds of heros we birth.

Muntaqrin, thank you for your honesty. You help to prove that “Samir Kuntar is the conscience of the Arab Nation.”

He is a fitting symbol for you. Any Arab with an actual conscience, well, just emigrate and change your name to something Italian.

“the fact that he has not broken in Zionist jail over these decades. What strength and resolve!”
Muntaqrin, I find this statement quite interesting, when I look at the pictures of his celebrated return i can’t help but notice how fat and happy he looks! It hardly looks as though his “zionist” captors have been mistreating much. in fact he seems quite well fed for a man who’s spent 29 years in an israeli jail, I would say he looked a lot healthier than say what Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev looked. just an observation

Equalizer:
From a list of 7th century Muslim battles and those related activities I once calculated that altogether the various examples were collectively equivalent to something like 225 years of war.

But why is it that repeatedly in history books one reads that those armies somehow “swept” through cities (as if with brooms!) frequently without mention of the actual slaughter that occurred? Conquerors occupied conquered lands and called themselves righteous. None more self-righteous than those conquerors and their versions of history?

Is it a Middle Eastern cultural habit to ignore the merciless facts? Recently an Iraqi recalled: “…a band of Islamic militiamen swept through their neighborhood…” actually, he added, his brother taken and murdered as a result of that event.

It should be clear who was the perpetrator (Quntar) and who were the victims (father and child)…except to those with a Mafia mentality…like Muntaqim who is forever self-righteous.

ha ha, “change your name to something Italian”, priceless! In that case, Montaqem should sound something like “Mono”, or “Taco”. Close enough to Italian, I think. But come to think of it, I like Italians. They gave us Verdi, Da Vinci, Virgil, Dante, Galileo, ahem, something called the Renaissance, Sistene Chapel, the epitome of mankind’s humanistic genius! Why do people like Kuntar and Montaqem have to show for? lemme think… …
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Thank you Muntaqim. I will remember your kind words next time I hook up bombs under the wings of our warplanes.

God, I hope “Muntaqim” is either a troll or just a crazy person, because if his post embodies what a part of the Shia populace is feeling, then we’re in big trouble.

This guy isn’t serious, right? I read his talkbalk and my head spun - are there actually people out there like this who can also read and write and actually walk around in the world? I mean…I’m kinda blanking out right now. Frankly, as a UK Jew, this guy scares me.

It is ludicrous what you and your fellow bloggers are trying to do. Every credible scholar agrees that the Israeli version of the Kuntar operation is a very distorted one which has been propagated around the world to demonise Kuntar and his borthers-in-arms.

I find it peculiar that you guys take this distorted version - issued by the enemy - as factual truth. Israeli credibility is not so brilliant given small children are branded terrorists.

Samir Quntars trial - and what he said in it - has been kept secret and, in 2006, was released in secret too. However, if any of you had the time to actually read what he and many witnesses said, then you may like to think otherwise.

To make life easier, I will breif it for you:- Samir Quntar killed one Israeli policeman. He did not bang a 4-year olds head into a rock. I very factual error in that myth is, looking at each one of your comments and all other accounts in the Israeli media, each one of you seems to have their own variance in what had happened. One person is saying he banged her head into a rock, another he banged her head with a rock, another he banged her head with the butt of his rifle, then another is saying he banged her head with both the butt of his rifle and a rock! Make up your minds already.

It’s bullshit, that’s what it is. Kuntars crew had been on an operation to abduct Israeli reservists/policemen/soldiers. They ran into trouble while on their mission and entered a block and took one of the families in their hostage to try and negotiate a safe retreat. The Israeli policemen refused and went on a rampage, endangering the family’s lives. Friendly fire, or COLLATERAL DAMAGE, killed the father and one policeman. Another policeman was killed by Kuntar. The young 4-year-old was killed after a peice of concrete hit her head after a hand-grenade was thrown at the apartment - presumably aimed at the Kuntar crew. They had been in an apartment block, where the hell can you find a rock in there? Or was that a lethal accessory back in those days?

UK/Leb Patriot, I’m sorry but you seem to be no different from every other boring brainwashed incredulous Arab, blinded by indiscriminate hatred. News to you perhaps, but even Augustus Richard Norton, no friend of Israel’s, and one of Hezbollah’s most dedicated, most consistent apologists, is appalled by the whole Kuntar affair. Perhaps he will now embark on a corrective to his shoddily researched and very, very badly written Hezbollah: A Brief Snow-Job?? But in the meantime, you should continue drinking the coolaid; no hope for you.

Name one, ONE, “credible scholar” who argues “that the Israeli version of the Kuntar operation is a very distorted one…” Unless you consider hack writers and whacked out contrarians like Cole and Abukhalil scholars.

Anyway, I have it straight from the horse’s mouth, one of your own, the radicals’ hero, the very articulate, very credible, and very-much-in-bed with Hezbollah, the Palestinians, and all of your useless Arab causes; Richard Norton. Give me one “credible scholar” that is capable of discrediting Norton, and that has publically done so… (and please, leave out (the incredible) Juanito Cole, Asshead Abukhalil, and Nutty Norman Finklestein…)

UK/Leb Patriot
Your perspective echos the propaganda campaign spewed by the arab media. I can’t wait for you to tell us all how israel lost the six day war in 67 next.

F#$k Samir Kuntar.

I have heard that Samir al Quntar did not kill the 4years old , he did not want what happened to her in the chaos and shot guns by the Israeli trying to free her father . Samir wanted to keep her faither as prisoner to exchange him for more Arab prisoners but the IOF killed the father , while trying to rescue him . Dont trust the israeli media , they lie and try to convince you they are telling the truth . remember the 3 iranian soldiers they found in summer 2006? where are they ? remember 400 hezbollah bodies ? remember how the tanks fired on their own in Beit Hanoun Nov 2006 and killed 20 civilians of the same family ? remember how Huda Ghallia family was killed by a Ghost on the Beach , while the Israeli gunships faced them in Gaza beach ? their lies are too numerous to list .

UK/Leb patriot

After watching Heikel and listening to all the documents he held , we now know the Arab soldiers were not only badly trained , not properly armed but were not meant to fight seriously but just show up . the Arab leaders wanted to remain in power , fighting honestly would have lost them their thrones >
reading Moshe Dayan accounts on the 67 war, i found that it was all provoked by Israel and the Israeli generals had fun doing so , to capture the fertile land especially the Golan heights. It was the settlers dream and they had to find a way to get there, even if they had to push the tractors and provoke the syrians to fire . (read Moshe Dayans notes about the Golan Heights , you ll be amazed )

Leila, of course the woman who survived is a plain liar. Sure there must be mistakes in the Israeli media, but never as many as in the Arab press, e.g. Firas or Palestine Today. Reading Dick Tracey is much more fun and accurate.

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Israel should have murdered this child killer a long time ago.