Iran's 5 Principles Of Middle East Hegemony

We have spoken at length about how Iran’s influence is growing in the region, but a 5-point summing up of their tactics will do no harm, right?

Thomas Friedman, It’s all about leverage, New York Times:

The “Iran & Friends” strategy is built on five principles:

Principle No. 1: Always seek “control without responsibility.” In Lebanon, Gaza and Iraq, Iran & Friends have veto power over the politics, without being held fully responsible for the electricity. America’s allies, by contrast, tend to have “responsibility without control.”

Principle No. 2: Always insist on being able to both run for political office and bear arms. In Lebanon, Gaza and Iraq, America’s opponents are both in the government and have their own militias.

Principle No. 3: Use suicide bombing and targeted assassinations against any opponents who get in your way. In Lebanon, Syria is widely suspected to have been behind the spate of killings of anti-Syrian journalists and parliamentarians. One suicide attack on a major official in Iraq can neutralize superior U.S. power.

Principle No. 4: Use the nternet as a free command and control system for raising money, recruiting and operations.

Principle No. 5: Cast yourself as the “resistance” to Israel and America, so any opposition to you is equal to support for Israel and America and so no matter how badly you are defeated the mere fact that you “resisted” means you didn’t really lose.

My favorites are No 1 and No 5. I would add one more principle:

Principle No. 6: After coup operations that secure more political power, always consolidate with a swift tactical peace that will mollify your traumatized opponents who will jump at anything that resembles peace.

Thoughts?

  • GK

    you are right! Everytime I talk to someone about HA’s militias and their hatred to anthing not shiite, I get: “they are fighting Israel.” I remind them that the Shiite in the south welcomed the Israelis in 1982 with rice and roses!!!

  • Bronx-man

    Friedman is really first class in cutting through Byzantine situations. I also liked his remark:
    “When you have leverage, talk. When you don’t have leverage, get some. Then talk”. While this advice seemed to be intended for Obama, it’s a goal that that the civilized part of Lebanon should strive for in the next round with the uncivilized portion. The Hez are naked without weapons and the fact that they turned the guns on fellow Lebanese should cause a loss of support. That they have no useful political program and represent a foreign power and ideology which runs counter to Lebanese interests is also not in their favor. Sounds like they can be hollowed out and collapsed, but the moment won’t last long.

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    Accept the existence of Israel and a peaceful resolution to differences with it – or at least state publicly that it is better to accept Israel than the shit from Hezbollah, domestic terror, and political and economic stagnation. That would eliminate the rationale behind “resistance”, lessen the power of domestic political repression, and strengthen the forces of law and order, isn’t that so?

  • LebanesePatriot

    I never understood what’s next for HizbIran?
    If they really believe that this situation will be their future status in Lebanon, they are dreaming.

    What options are possible?

    Option 1- US/Israel deal with Syria- that means that Syria will assist in the termination of HizbIran. I doubt this will happen. If it does, then the International Tribunal will be the price.

    Option 2-US deal with Iran- That is no good for Lebanon. That means that HizbIran will become the supreme power in Lebanon. This option is unlikely to happen. But who knows. World is full with surprises.

    Option 3- 1559 will be applied…. This can be done peacefully, which I doubt. Or, it can be done by force… Which means that the Lebanese army + some international peace keeping forces will be forcing HizbIran to give up their weapons. That is a nasty option.

    On thing is clear, status quo is not an option…..

  • Anonymous

    this article is so simplistic and with wrong analyses:
    no1: HA is asking for power and for responsibility heck they stormed beirut for it
    Hamas went through election and became goverment, what part of not wanting responsibility applies there?

    n02: In Lebanon , Gaza and Iraq there are NO goverments that can do anything..people in Lebanon, Gaza and Iraq resort to protect themselves (private militia in all sides and amn zati) .To paint the picture as one sided and take only a snapshot is wrong

    n03:That may be true or not. Political assassination is not a tactic limited to Syria and co, Israel is a pioneer in the field and so are several arab regimes.

    n04: That is true. but does not everybody use the internet for recruitment and fund raising? what is so genius about that?

    n05: Cast yourself as the resistance? what do you call 20 years of fighting the israelis? what do you call the thousands of people who died? what do you call all of this? acting/ casting?????

    for god’s sake,this is the same guy who cheered the US administration to go into war with Iraq, and now criticizes it and finds his analysis was wrong..For God’s sake if we want to get rid of HA and likes we have to be at least smarter than that..and most importantly we should not be hypocrites with selective memory

  • green toad

    To all Lebanese: I think we should listen to Solomon’s comment!

    (I assume that’s his real name? Maybe he is a king and prophet too.)

    Anyway, if we listen to his words, they are at the core of the issue: “ACCEPT THE EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL AND A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION TO DIFFERENCES WITH IT.” It almost sounds like a command, doesn’t it? Well, of course Israel is God’s Chosen People, so they do have the right to command all y’all. At the very least, it sounds like a threat. But again, “Chosen People”.

    “THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE RATIONALE BEHIND ‘RESISTANCE’, LESSEN THE POWER OF DOMESTIC POLITICAL REPRESSION, AND STRENGTHEN THE FORCES OF LAW AND ORDER, ISN’T THAT SO?”

    Wow, so smart: Accepting a bullying, racist terrorist state as your neighbor would eliminate all your domestic!

    You know what would eliminate the rationale behind resistance? The end of all Israeli Occupation! The end of all Israeli Apartheid! The rightful return of all refugees to their homes! Poof! No more resistance!

    And speaking of lessening the power of domestic political repression and strengthening the forces of law and order, for those Jordanian & Egyptian & Palestinian common people who have accepted, er, excuse me, bent over for, “peace” with Israel, they certainly have enjoyed freedom from repression and respect for law & order, as well as political freedoms, from their US-controlled regimes, haven’t they? Certainly, at least in Solomon’s La La Land of pretend democracy and pretend human rights.

    Let the record speak for itself: Never have the Arab dictatorships, nor corrupt Arab feudalist politicians (Saad Hariri and all others), nor U.S. superpower hostage-regimes, nor Israeli Apartheid state terrorism, brought to the people of any country their right to peace and liberty. So stop jamming your propaganda down our throat. It will always fail.

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  • Habeen USA

    I wonder why people don’t understand the words that comes out of HA and Nasrallah , you keep asking the same question over and over again .

    Nasrallah : the solution for the HA weapons is:

    1- Liberate all Lebanese occupied land.
    2- Release all Lebanese prisoners .
    3- Build a Strong, fair, clean state,

    a-Strong : A state that can protect its citizens ( not with tears of course).
    b- Fair: A state of Law, treats all their citizen equally .
    c- Clean : A state that asks the ministers, ( men ayein laka hatha ) Theft .

    Therefore, it doesn’t have to do anything with Syria , or Iran .
    If Syria went to peace with Israel , do you think that HA will pack their weapons and forget about the occupied land and the prisoner and go home???????

  • min south amrika

    Habeen:
    I suppose that on your world, HA guns and munition appear in nasrallah underground home by magic. Of course, they don’t come through the syrian border and, for sure, iran’s petro-money only buy HA’s napkins.

    “1) Liberate all Lebanese occupied land.”
    The shebaa ? c’mon…

    “2- Release all Lebanese prisoners.”
    Good one. But it’s just my bad ears, or you also don’t hear them talk about the ones in SYRIA ? Talk about being selective.

    “3- Build a Strong, fair, clean state,”
    How nice. Made my day. But I guess they’re on the wrong “fair” and “clean” foot after their last beiruti adventure.

    “a-Strong : A state that can protect its citizens”
    What about the nahr albared “red line” warning to the army ? nasrallah was protecting who ?

    “b- Fair: A state of Law, treats all their citizen equally.”
    Tell this to those dahieh thugs… and tell that to anyone that goes there.

    “c- Clean : A state that asks the ministers, ( men ayein laka hatha ) Theft .”
    All those politicians – M8/M14/M99/Z53 – are corrupt. I doubt that will ever change – at least while we’re locked in this patronage scheme.

  • shunkleash

    “green toad”…how appropriate a description. I guess Jimmy Carter’s book was the easiest read for you huh? Very intellectual i must say!

    But try and wrap your warped mind around this doozy…how come Syria and hizbteezee can negotiate with those mean nasty JOOOS at regular intervals but if we try to build a country and society that isn’t noosed by the palestinian “cause” or extravagant conspiracy theories, that even george lucas and steven speilberg could only dream of, and make peace with our neigbours we are labeled inter alia JOOOOS, JOO spies, JOO lovers, zionists, and best of all (because we shoot and kill citizens and burn and destroy property including tv and radio stations) traitors? hmmmm

    All the best…y’all

  • Bad Vilbel

    Solomon,

    I personally am all for a fair peace with our neighbour to the south. But the problem in what you’re asking is that it plays exactly into HA’s propaganda.

    To Friedman’s point #5. If any Lebanese leader came out and said what you ask, HA will simply accuse him of being an Israeli/American agent.

    And the problem is, that stupid line actually WORKS on the brainwashed masses. So it’s political suicide for anyone to come out and declare they are for peace with Israel. It’s that simple really.

    Not what you wanted to hear, I’m sure. But it’s the truth.

    It would go over about as well as an american president saying “we want peace with Al Qaeda”.

  • green toad

    shunkleash,

    because we say so, if that is all you know how to understand.

  • danny

    green toad,

    You are just that. Your intellectual capabilities and superb analysis have overwhelmed the masses.

    “because we say so, if that is all you know how to understand”…

    Your attitude is that of a insignificant little bully who can take dimes away from little girls…Only when the big boys show up you run and hide under your wives skirts and “declare divine victory”…

  • Jean Haddad

    Mustafa, the neocons are in their final hours and you still cling to their rhetoric?

    Every prediction you have ever made on Lebanon has been wrong and your continued neocon Sunni neofacist rabble is getting boring.

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  • Ace

    Nasrallah has recently hedged all his bets. The “resistance” is now against Israel AND the USA. As long as there are any USA Troops anywhere in the MidEast – the “resistance” will continue. This is going to be never ending or until Iran reaches their stated goals.

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    GT: Israel is God’s Chosen People, so they do have the right to command all y’all.

    I have always been taught that being the “Chosen People” means having more obligations than others, not more “rights”. Do you really mean to imply that if Lebanon wasn’t in a state of war with Israel its only alternative would be to worship and obey it, or that it would be the natural desire of Lebanese to do so? Israel doesn’t want that, either.

    Poof! No more resistance!

    You’d still have an army of men raised on welfare and trained for combat without a mission and without any career prospects in the civilian population. Most likely they would fall to fighting among themselves, unless given an external enemy. Doesn’t that mean that ending terrorism is more about education and environment, rather than “occupation”?

    those Jordanian & Egyptian & Palestinian common people who have accepted…“peace” with Israel, they certainly have enjoyed freedom from repression and respect for law & order-

    Not as much as the Iraqis or Emirates or even the Kuwaitis. Arabs in Israel who do not want to become part of an Arab-ruled Palestinian state will tell you that there is something wrong, something Arabs don’t get right, when it comes to self-government. Probably that has to do with Arab societies’ tribal and sectarian, rather than civic, orientation. The same forces that keep Lebanon “balkanized” push Arab governments into corruption and self-perpetuation based on extended personal networks of power: rule-BY-law rather than the rule-OF-law.

    Yet there seems to be more to it than that. I’ve demonstrated in front of the Egyptian embassy in D.C. and met Egyptian democracy advocates. They don’t quite get what establishing a democracy is all about: taking the initiative to work with your country so everybody is represented and the right to organize to kick the government out through an orderly process respected. They want it done for them by somebody else.

    People who think other people are responsible for their fate can never fully accept sovereignty upon themselves. The elite will never have what it takes to run a democracy, either as legislators or as executives, due to this “pass-the-buck” mentality and the masses will thus fall under the sway of demogogues who claim to have all the answers if people give them untrammeled power.

    Mohamed over at Iraq the Model argues that this is because importing democracy is like importing medicine: “Usage and dosage instructions are necessary”. If Arabs’ tribal orientation and physical distance keeps them from looking at America for an example to follow, perhaps the economic development of the Gulf States and accelerating political resolution and reconciliation of Iraq can serve.

    Never have…U.S. superpower hostage-regimes, nor Israeli Apartheid state terrorism, brought to the people of any country their right to peace and liberty.

    I think the peoples of Germany, Italy, Japan, France, and the Phillipines – and many others – would strongly differ with you about the U.S. Although Arabs in Israel live more freely than Arabs in surrounding states, I didn’t know that “liberation” was the policy you have in mind for the State of Israel – how did that come about?

    BV: If any Lebanese leader came out and said what you ask, HA will simply accuse him of being an Israeli/American agent.

    What is the problem with making such a bold and public statement and accepting HA’s ire? Will Hezbollah make martyrs of such people? How long could Hezbo keep that up without imploding from within or collapsing from external pressure? Should people simply continue to live in dread and fear, until, as Natan Sharansky wrote, the condemned yell, “Hurry up and shoot”!?

    The 2006 war cost Lebanon over 1200 deaths, a total lower than it might have been because of Israel’s warnings and careful targeting, yet higher than need be because of Hezbollah’s policy of stationing civilians in areas of immediate military importance. (Michael Totten notes in his latest post that the Serbs sent one of their own ministers to jail for 10 years for doing that in 1999.) If Hezbollah gets its way, the next fracas with Israel can only lead to even higher civilian casualties.

    Less than a tenth of that number perished in last month’s putsch. So is civil war still to be feared more than regional conflict? Let HA label people “traitors”, these noble souls can shout back that Hezbollah is a bigger traitor than Lebanon and the Arab people have ever known, for they serve Iranian masters whose ultimate vision includes Lebanon’s destruction! Then give those who want to give up Hezbollah’s evil path a way out.

    Yeah, Lebanon will gain a few more martyrs. Western intervention and control is a rarity. Otherwise it’s nearly as GT said: Without the risk of sacrifice, rarely have political reformers “brought to the people of any country their right to peace and liberty.”

  • Shunkleash

    Ok kermit the frog…lol…you gave me the answer that I expected. It was very very profound. It is exactly why you and anyone else who supports the mullahkharrah from iran will eventually self destruct.

    Be nice to your neighbour, I give you permission to go and live in Iran.

    Bon voyage kermit

  • Hele

    Green Toad;

    Hard to figure since over 90% of those ‘refugees’ were born after 1948 and have never lived in Israel.

    So much for that famous Arab hospitality.

  • http://thebadvilbel.blogspot.com Bad Vilbel

    Solomon,

    On paper, there’s nothing wrong with making such a statement. I personally wish someone would. But you, as an Israeli, do not seem to grasp the Arab mentality.

    I’m not defending it, mind you. Let me be clear. I think it’s backwards and obtuse. But we’re talking about something that’s so collectively ingrained that it is simply impossible to speak about without becoming a pariah.

    Again, forget whether it’s justified or not. That’s really irrelevant. It’s one of those ingrained taboos that transcend politics. Picture an Israeli politician denying the holocaust, for example. Whether it’s true or not is really irrelevant. The Holocaust is an almost SACRED issue for the Jewish people and any such claim would be political SUICIDE.

    Similarly, picture a US candidate for presidency saying that “Osama Bin Laden is not so bad after all”. Regardless of whether it’s true or not, that comment would just be the end of that politician, simply because 9/11 is a “SACRED” issue for the American people.

    Does this make sense?

    I’m not entirely sure I can really relate how much of a collective taboo the topic of Israel is amongst the Arab people (rightly or wrongly).

  • Alia

    “how much of a collective taboo the topic of Israel is amongst the Arab people”

    Too bad Arabs don’t feel the same outrage for worse incidents, like Saddam’s slaughter of almost 300,000 people, the slaughter of some 30,000 in Hama in the 1980s, the gassing of the Kurds, the invasion of Kuwait, and the genocide in Darfur carried out by the Arab government.

    Yes, it makes much more sense to get outraged about Israel’s small scale killing of Palestinians or some silly Danish cartoons than large scale slaughter.

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    But you, as an Israeli -

    I’m an American. Probably I should have qualified “Israel doesn’t want -” as, “I can’t imagine that Israel would want -”, and added this explanation: both Judaism and secularism reject the notion of worshiping or even respecting a man as one would a god. That’s the primary reason why graven images were forbidden in Judaism, because it harkened back to the practices of worshiping the god-Pharaohs of Egypt.

    it is simply impossible to speak about without becoming a pariah

    Yes. Toleration for political activism against the grain of public opinion is the key to the peaceful change of public opinion, otherwise the potential for change builds up secretly to explosive levels within a society. Every successful activist was formerly a pariah to somebody else. An Israeli politician denying the holocaust? Those crazies are out there – at least in academia. They don’t get much support, and can be easily refuted, but toleration for them is a cheap price to pay for a free society.

    It’s one of those ingrained taboos that transcend politics.

    If so, then it’s well past time that some Arabs try to transcend these limitations, wouldn’t you say? So the question boils down to this: Who is willing to be first?

  • http://thebadvilbel.blogspot.com Bad Vilbel

    Like I said, I don’t disagree with you at all, Sol. I feel the same way. I was merely trying to explain and convey how sensitive this matter is within the Arab world.

    And yes, it is stupid, as far as I’m concerned to demonize the Israelis, but somehow give a free pass to Saddam’s atrocities or other similar.

    My point is, you and I, from the outside looking in, see that. A large chunk of the Arab world DOESN’T.
    When you’re so engrossed in a narrative that depicts X as a demon, it really stops mattering if X is really a demon or not. You know?

    It’s a form of mass delusion, or somesuch. I’m sure there’s some sort of medical/sociological word for it. But examples of it abound throughout history. Certain topics or issues are ingrained so deeply by a certain narrative that it makes people physically incapable of seeing past it.

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    When you’re so engrossed in a narrative that depicts X as a demon, it really stops mattering if X is really a demon or not. You know?

    I imagine people who are infused with a blind burning hatred or fear can be like that, yes. They are taught to live in a perpetual nightmare where they interpret reality only within a single horrible frame of view.

    Time for a wake-up call.

  • http://www.israelimom.org Israeli Mom

    BadVilbel, that’s an interesting observation. Don’t you feel though that maybe things are changing in the Arab world? After all, we have peace with Egypt and Jordan, and now peace talks with Syria. I also see more Arabs talking to Israelis, at least online. I am a member at mepeace.org, where granted, there are under 1000 members, but still a well balanced mix of Arabs and Israelis (not enough Lebanese btw!) – lots of Palestinians too. In short, is it too much to hope for that these beliefs may not be as ingrained and unchangeable as you seem to think they are?

  • http://thebadvilbel.blogspot.com Bad Vilbel

    Sol, Israeli Mom,

    Things have been changing over the past years, yes. But it is a slow change, that has yet to take root into the overall populace (the fact that you have peace with Egypt doesn’t mean most Egyptians are good friends to Israel).

    Sol,

    A very good observation, the way you just phrased it. I would change one word. I know most Israelis (i know you’re American, but i’m generalizing) have been taught to think “hate”, but I’d say the more apt word here is “fear”. Specially when it comes to Lebanon. I can see why Palestinian’s narrative would revolve more around hate (“They stole our land, etc.”), but the taboo in Lebanon about Israel has a lot more to do with the narrative of this foreign entity who bombs the crap out of us every now and again and doesn’t want us to have a modern, strong Lebanon (mind you, I am relaying the narrative here. That doesn’t mean I think it true, nor does it mean I agree with it).

    But if you talk to a lot of Lebanese civilians (even those that aren’t under HA influence, from other sects) there’s an irrational (again, i think it’s almost a collective psychological type thing) fear of the Israelis. Because of 60+ years of demonizing, and of NO HUMAN CONTACT (my biggest beef with the fact that we are not in theory allowed to communicate with Israelis is the dehumanizing) has led to where Israelis are thought of as some sort of mythical half-men, half-demons with magical powers to know all (you’d be amazed at some of the conspiracy theories) and hear all and are somehow capable of superhuman feats, all used for some nefarious international zionist purposes who’s sole reason for being is to make our lives miserable.

    It’s a very ego-centric view of the world (as if Israelis didn’t have other shit to worry about in their daily lives).

    Like I said, history is filled with similar examples. Where you essentially repeat a narrative long enough that it takes on a near legendary magnitude.

    After decades of being fed nothing but “The Israelis did it”, no matter what…i’m surprised people don’t assume the Israelis are somehow controlling the weather , or somehow responsible for the earthquakes that shook South Lebanon recently.

    With that kind of ingrained mentality, what do you expect would happen if someone said “it’s time we made peace with Israel”?

    You make peace with equals. Other humans. But people can’t really comprehend “making peace” with a superhuman creature of sorts, you know? That simply does not compute.

  • http://thebadvilbel.blogspot.com Bad Vilbel

    Oh and to answer your last question, Israeli Mom,
    I never said these beliefs are unchangeable.

    I just don’t think we’re there yet, to where someone can stand up and say “let’s be friends” (as Solomon was asking).

    I think it’s gonna take a lot longer for these narratives to evolve towards the better.

  • green toad

    israel will never have peace.

  • green toad

    oh, and also:
    never.

  • alan

    others are talking proper and “clean”
    kermit´s talking crap

  • sam

    Hell on the persian safavid rising empire. Arabs and Jews are blind not to see the Rising Evil from the East. Semitic nations, backed by Europe and the States shall fight this rogue nation iran.

    Even Russia shall be aware that once Iran achieve their control over arabs lands through Shiaa minorities and destroy Israel. The persians will start claiming Russian lands, pretending these lands was annexed by the Tsars.

    Iran is the Worst Evil in the early 21st Century. Destroying the ayatollahs regime is a Human Responsibility. Otherwise these crazy pedophiles nuts will drive the Middle East into a prolonged Dark Ages!

  • min south amrika

    BV,
    (cinical laugh: on)
    maybe now, — if sleiman — keeps his word and the diaspora have a say (on political matters, I hope), things CAN change.
    (cinical laugh: off)
    And, of course, some evil zionist plan don’t stop it before :)

  • Qaher Al Majous

    It’s amazing how Shiites struggle to be hated…

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    green toad, people who repeat their mantras over and over aren’t trying to convince others, but themselves; mantras are a kind of psychological defense mechanism. Apparently you found no fault with any of our replies. Do you think that if you stopped repeating the “no Israel peace” line you’d love Israel? Do you agree with Bad Vilbel, and thus consider Israelis to be a kind of supermen who ordinary mortals can’t deal with?

  • purple cloud

    aparently solomn is repeating himself.
    oh, and israel will NEVER have peace.

  • Nathan

    “oh, and israel will NEVER have peace.”

    Oh, bravo, little fool, what righteous moral supermen you are to have such convictions.

  • green toad

    so much (typing) effort exerted, towards what end? towards more typing. yeah! long live typing! but what difference does it make? israel will never have peace.

  • Nathan

    “israel will never have peace.”

    And you will with that approach?

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    what difference does it make? israel will never have peace.

    Oh, now I get it. Since “Israel will never have peace” why not take up a position of permanent enmity with it? Fibs, half-truths, and selected shadings of events serve to provide the moral justification to maintain a fig leaf of dignity.

    Still, there is such a thing as putting food on the table. Trade between Israel and Lebanon has been documented and profitable since biblical times.

    Then there is a wonderful feeling you may never have experienced: living life knowing that you are not living a lie, that you are making a difference by doing good in this world, and thus you can be true to G-d and to your descendants.

    Does it not make a difference to you if you can recover your soul?

  • green toad

    “Trade between Israel and Lebanon has been documented and profitable since biblical times.Then there is a wonderful feeling you may never have experienced: living life knowing that you are not living a lie, that you are making a difference by doing good in this world, and thus you can be true to G-d and to your descendants.Does it not make a difference to you if you can recover your soul?”

    the above words are “fibs, half-truths, and selected shadings of events serve to provide the moral justification to maintain a fig leaf of dignity.”

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    gt, we spent the earlier part of this thread stripping away the outer bark until we got to your core (“israel will never have peace.”)- thus exposing the “fibs, etc.” that served to conceal it. If you are going to invert matters now and accuse me of following corrupt practices, can you at least present us with arguments to support your labels? And if not, why should anyone, including yourself, believe them?

    Let go, gt. Take charge of your life. Hezbollah may not make peace with Israel but you can make your own peace in your heart with the Jewish State, and encourage others do the same. Be willing to see people as people, not as inferiors or supermen. Look at yourself in the mirror and see a good person inside, not someone hateful because he or she has experienced oppression. In that way you won’t seek to relieve your oppression by oppressing others.

  • Abulle

    It’s so nice how every Zionist neocon reads Mustapha’s blog and praises him. That tells you more about him than I ever could.

  • green toad

    long live a strong lebanon and palestine, liberated from israeli hegemony.

  • Nathan

    “long live a strong lebanon and palestine, liberated from israeli hegemony.”

    Replete with green toad’s lust for endless war, no doubt.

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    I think gt is telling us what we can expect once Arabs accept that Israel no longer occupies Arab territory: instead Israel is to be reviled for its “hegemony” over its neighbors.

    Funny thing, “hegemony”. Who in Mexico or Canada prays that their country be “liberated from U.S. hegemony”? Mexico and Canada are America’s biggest trading partners. It is not a relationship of equals, no, but it is a relationship of mutual advantage. It’s a choice Canadians and Mexicans made for themselves, and can keep making for themselves.

    Contrast that with Cuba. Cuba (outside of Guantanamo, of course) is free of U.S. hegemony. Unfortunately, that is almost the only freedom its population enjoys, as they suffer under the misery of a police state – very much what happened to all states that fell into the Soviet orbit, some of which remained there once the USSR itself imploded.

    Similarly, the Arabs of Gaza are ruled by other Arabs who take pride in their association with Iran, and what is more they have severed almost all human and trade links with Israel. But the result of their continued aggression against Israel and their fellow Arabs has been increased misery and, I’m sure, a decreased life expectancy. In Lebanon Hezbo’s push to not just liberate territory but act to destroy Israel whenever Iran wishes has also resulted in the destruction of lives and property.

    So we have the right to ask you this, gt: is your wish, “Long live a strong lebanon and palestine, liberated from Israeli hegemony” supposed to be a blessing or a curse for the Palestinians and Lebanese who live in the region?

    Perhaps it isn’t hegemony itself that is a good or bad thing, rather whom you choose to be your hegemon and why. Who would you rather have hegemony over Lebanon: Hezbollah whose life-and-death decisions are ultimately made in Iran with a little input from their most dedicated Lebanese servants, or the Lebanese government, where the citizenry has at least some influence over the decision-making process? And if the Lebanese government decided normalization of relations with Israel would be the best assurance of peace and prosperity for the country, what would be wrong with that?

  • crimson fox

    never will the israel regime be accepted in the region because it is an unnatural, imposed force. never will israel have peace because its very identity is built upon the usurping of the rights of others

  • Nathan

    “never will the israel regime be accepted in the region because it is an unnatural, imposed force. never will israel have peace because its very identity is built upon the usurping of the rights of others”

    Green Toad, now Crimson Fox? Are you trying to make political arguments or arrange the cast for the next Wire-Fu movie out of Hong Kong?

    But again, “never peace”, “always war”. Quite a hard-on you and the toadie have for this endless war nonsense. One would think 60 years of killing would have satiated most people but oh well, I’m just an Aussie, what do I know about sectarian maniacs?

  • violet butterfly

    nathan, how much war did it take for your aussie forefathers to subdue the rightful owners of the australian island? what did the indigenous people call it before the invaders came?

  • Babs

    Pathetic, just pathetic. Sunnis and Christians are being driven out of Lebanon and it will collapse into a failed state (almost there already). Yet, those with external anger will continue on, right into the dungeons of hell, taking the remaining populace with them.
    As a non-Lebanese I say that if you want armed militias in your country, you want chaos, you want suffering and death, go for it! It is very hard for me to keep track of the story line when Hez has now turned its guns on the civilian citizenry of your own country. This is progress?
    Oh, and BTW, I am still waiting for the “ever moral” Hiz to allow Red Cross workers to interview your Israeli hostages… Maybe, if that small gesture were made toward humanity I would think differently. But, I am sure you have some very defensible reason why Hez does not have to have any humanitarian precepts. After all, they are the superior moral force. Right? Right? The militia you seem to love cannot even present its hostages to a neutral agency…

  • Babs

    nathan, how much war did it take for your aussie forefathers to subdue the rightful owners of the australian island? what did the indigenous people call it before the invaders came?

    Hey Violet – Let me fix that for you.

    How much war did it take for your Muslim forefathers to subdue the rightful owners of the land bordering the eastern mediteranean? What did the indigenous people call it before the Muslim invaders came???

    You might want to think on that for a few moments considering that Islam is much, much younger than the tribes of Abraham or Christianity for that matter… What WAS the current Israel called before Islam took over?

  • pink flamingo

    it was called canaan.

  • pink flamingo

    it was called canaan.

  • http://solomon2.blogspot.com Solomon2

    What did the indigenous people call it before the Muslim invaders came?

    The Muslims who established political domination across the Middle East did not call themselves invaders or refer to the process as invasion. Instead they used the euphemism, “opening up the lands” – the implication being that the land was empty of people, or at least people whose opinions about property ownership meant anything. A neat way of freeing their descendants from the guilt of their forefathers “usurping of the rights of others” isn’t that so?

  • red bananan

    no, that isn’t so; white man speaks with forked tongue.

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