reappears sates Goldfield,dissonant …

I hear you man. Though for the record there was subtle cynicism in the question ‘are u a Maronite’..

If a caveman was running with a spear in his hand at three other cavemen, one of them runs, one decides to fight, and one smiles…who do you think survives?

When someone comes at you with a spear after 2 years of attempted dialogue I think the moral high ground is pretty much non-existant. Lets sit and smile maybe we’ll get buried and some historian will mention how we took the moral high ground.

Yes we have come far from being cavemen. We are in a civilized WORLD…but read the newspapers and you’ll see that some places still live in the dark ages…africa…DARFURR….IRAQ…LEBANON…etc. So I’m prepared to take the moral high ground once you get rid of those barbaric cavemen..im not prepared to spend my life handing them flowers and smiling at them while they conquer me and my vision for this country…I think march 14 has pretty much tried using all the civility and moral high ground there is to spare…but once again and I’m sorry to sound crass but I’m fed up.. you don’t dine with dogs do you..you don’t try to have a rational conversation with your dog (even though it would make a lot more sense than talking to any of the opposition members)…you don’t smile at your dog if he suddenly becomes CUJO…likewise you can’t treat the opposition like members of modern civilization…and please spare me the idealistic bullshit..ive tried it..it just doesnt work…march 14 have tried it for 3 years and there is no evidence it is ever going to work…its like inviting CUJO for dinner and he bites your leg off…you invite him again and he bites your other leg…you’re sitting there maimed…and your brother invites him once again and he attacks you..just when you decide to kick his ass…your brother asks you to hand him a flower!!

I’m sorry this is such a bad example but thats how fed up i am…

Sectarianism remains the root cause of ALL this crap we’re arguing about here, and ALL that ails Lebanon. Not foreign interference. Not Syria. Not Israel. Those are all symptoms that take advantage of the real problem: Sectarianism.

All our problems (including Israel, Syria, Palestinians, Foreign interferance, etc) can be attributed to one fact and one fact only: The Lebanese people are divided based on sect and put their sectarian loyalty above that of the Lebanese state. Everything else stems from that. The day everyone believes in Lebanon FIRST, all of a sudden, it will be immaterial that you’re a sunni or a shia or a maronite. All of a sudden, you won’t have ANY reason to do what Syria tells you to do, or what Israel tells you to do, or what Iran tells you to do. It’s really that simple, sadly. People make it a lot more complicated than it needs to be.

You know how we could resolve everything in a week? (yes, a week! tops!).

All these asshats get together in parliament, pass a decree abolishing sectarianism completely, at all levels. That’s all it would take. Seriously.

Pass that decree from Parliament, and then call for general elections in a month’s time. Not based on Qada or whatever, no lists, no sectarian allotment. Have everyone vote for whoever they damn well please who declares his candidacy. Have the new parliament in question vote for a president. Again, anyone who wants to submit their candidacy can do so, and has to do so officially by filing with the interior ministry. No back room deals. No names being submitted by self-appointment consensus leaders. The list of all candidates is public and well known to everyone. Then you go in and you vote for one of those names. Period.

Do that and you should have a fair representation of what the people want (shia, sunnis, christians alike). After that, no one can claim “The shia are not getting their due” or “I represent 80% of the Christians” or any of that shit.

Game over.

It’s a pity people like you giving up on Lebanon. Clearly your insightful arguments are a total waste on some of these dim-wits to comprehend.

Ambrose Bierce, Collected Works (1912), quoted from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief

Again, I’m not saying I approve of the guy’s message, but it’s very telling how you people react to it. Lebanese are living in denial and anytime someone slaps you with the harsh (and sometimes foul) truth in the face, you get all riled up. You’d rather keep on living in a fantasy world, and you’d rather hear the inane platitudes about “brotherly love” and “common arab cause” and “unified Lebanon” that the other politicians pander to you on a daily basis, while they’re busy stabbing each other in the back, than to hear the ugly truth that there is no “unified Lebanon”.

And i find it amusing that those here who have issue with what I said seem to bring up “What Geagea, Jumblatt, etc. ” did in the past, but manage to omit Hassan Nassrallah and Michel Aoun from that list. How convenient.

You people should really be ashamed of yourselves instead of being incensed by Jouzou’s comments. All I read here is hypocrisy and double standards.

Tell you what. Go demonstrate and make your voices heard about how foul mouthed Hassan Nassrallah and Aoun are first, since those guys have been foul almost every day for the past 3 years…And when we’re done with those two, we can get to Jouzou.
You guys want to keep men of religion out of politics. Fine by me. But let’s start by marching down on Dahieh and Bkirki, and getting Nassrallah, Fadlallah and Sfeir to take a long vacation from the public eye. Then we can get to Jouzou. How’s that?

Bad you are and bad you will be

We do not have a collective memory but we have communities memories. Most of what is happening is because of that simple conviction that we did not learn from our history as SIMPLE MINDED like you have their memories stolen by leaders.

If the population was really remembering about what geagea did, what joumblatt did, what berri did, what jouzou said etc… We would have been having a real revolution and not getting our revolution confiscated.

But sheep you are and sheep you ll be forever without thinking about how to make the population waking up with the use of the memories confiscated today.

Rather than striving to emule the likes of Wahad and Qandil, may be we all should bring down our ambitions, and settle for emulating someone like Tueni or Kassir.

… Oh, how the mighty has fallen.