If I am not wrong Taef stipulates a lot of other things. Like the fact that Syria was to leave in 1992…Not forced out in 2005. It seems Taef has multiple interpretations…Taef says that ULTIMATELY Muhafaza should be basis. We might get never get there as Lebanon, as a country seems to be a forgone conclusion!!
As for Berri, he can throw a tantrum in his bathroom as he is scared to go anywhere else! He was the one who used the old man Batrak to kill off the parliament and torpedoed the election of a president by 50+1. If Batrak was great when it fit Berri’s purposes…now too bad for Iztaz. His words mean diddly squat!

Taef Agreement went down the drain with all the ambiguity it contains,and most of its articals havent been applied yet,note the electoral law and other important points such as cancelling the religious system in the country….
The only power cappable of explaining the Constitution(Taef) is the ConstitutionaL Court,and the goverment fu**ed this last one up so it uses the constitution as it please explained and interpreted by constitutional law professors such as Doctor Geagea,Doctor Dory Chamoun,Doctor 7ammar 7ouri,Doctor Walid Joumblat,Doctor Moustapha Alloush,and they’re all specialists in constitutional law……
As for the 1960 electoral law,its shit and as old as eleonora roosvelt,but still it’s wayyyyyyyyy better then the Ghazi Kanaan law that the goverment is now trying to promote…what kind of electoral law makes the voters in Akkar go vote for parliament members in Bcharre,where there isn t even a geographical link between Akkar and Bcharre…..
Yes we need a modern and good electoral law….but if we get to choose between the Ghazi Kanaan law or any other one…sure the kannan law should be let down….
Now lets wait and see how the commentetors here will begin calling me persian,syrian or other names as a respond to what i said….this is becoming a verry interresting blog you have Mousse,it shows the level of intellect around ;)…

Ado,

You found your way again to here… I am impressed.

I think Hassouna and MailBox Berri and psycho Aoun have better abilities to explain or to interpret the constitution!!!

Just for your information, no body from M14 is saying that we want the electoral law of Kanaan. They are saying that the one from 1960 is from 1960….

Try to read first or listen before you go into conclusions.

Your masters at Syria are saying that they want any electoral law that will guarantee their dogs in Lebanon to be elected.

“The only power cappable of explaining the Constitution(Taef) is the ConstitutionaL Court,and the goverment fu**ed this last one up”…

Ado, you are wrong in the above quote:
According to Taef ONLY the chamber of depities, ie the parliament has theright to explain the consitution. As your buddy Iztaz has the parliament locked…well???
as for new electoral law, They have to respect democracy and constitution in its entireity, not when it pleases them. So first order of business: ELECT A PRESIDENT!!!Go to parliament and vote! Here’s a novel concept for the cool aid crowd…

Ado,

Another point 2000 law was enacted to stop March 14 from winning by Ghazi Kanaan, your patron!!!!

Now, you do not like it heh???

…(March 14), that is Hariri and his allies in 2000…which intranslation did not mean Yellow or Orange ao any shade of teale

As usual, someone throws a shiny object at the Lebanese, and you guys get all excited and lose sight of the main issue. A couple months ago, it was the presidency, then the opposition suddenly started talking about a government of National unity be agreed on BEFORE any presidential elections. A few weeks later, a new “demand” surfaced: Early parliamentary elections. And now, for about 2 weeks, this silly 1960 parliamentary law is the latest “shiny object” to keep all you morons distracted and arguing over matters that are completly irrelevant to the real issues. I wouldn’t be surprised if in a couple of weeks, some asshat like Berri didn’t suddenly float some new “condition” to breaking the deadlock. Maybe something like “The price of rice in China must be below $1/lb.”. And I’ll watch all the usual imbeciles launching into tirades on various blogs, breaking down the price of rice and the various factors that go into its pricing.

BV,

As you said…But noone in their right mind is distracted by the election crap. This is to forward the “early elections’ BS. No one is falling for it. If it is their new toy, let the “cool aid” crowd amuse themselves with it!!
The first election has to be that of the PRESIDENT!!!

As danny said… if 1992 can be interpreted as 2005, then ‘ultimately’ can be interpreted as ‘when hell freezes over’ :)

Happy Birthday Moustafa :p

“Ado, you are wrong in the above quote:
According to Taef ONLY the chamber of depities, ie the parliament has theright to explain the consitution. As your buddy Iztaz has the parliament locked…well???”
Dany dude i don’t think you’re a lawyer,but just to expand your culture just read the lebanese consitution,and especially the article 19 of it….read it well,so maybe we can discuss this issue in a more objective way….
And then no the Istaz is not and will never be my buddy,i cannot be friends with any warlord,and Istaz is one,and he is most likely to be a march 14 buddy,coz he led his parlementary elections with them,and hizbo,and he shared the goverment with them for a while…..

And to mr Lebanese patriot,i think you’d rather change your nickname to 14marchpatriot,coz it seems that anyone who doesn’t agree with 14 march clowns who achieved nothing yet,you start calling him iranian and syrian.So much for freedom of speach and democracy….

Ado,

This is irrelevant. Also, learn how to read…

Many thanks,

Actually Mr. Ado,

LebanesePatriot and March14Patriot mean the same.

These are some of our principles:
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Why don’t you do yourself and us a favor and tell us about ONE move of March14 that was against Lebanon???? Against the constitution?

In contrast of March8… Let’s see what you guys stand for??

LebanesePatriot

The issue is not about which laws or years should be in effect, but more about the process of resolution or discussion that our politicians adopt in dealing with this.

They bicker and argue and throw each other red herrings and black mail tactics, and that’s a 500-year old way of doing things.

They can’t have a meaningful, civilized, rational debate that takes the interests of the country in consideration and is based after careful analysis and recommendations and options, etc…

That’s the real issue!

Even if you throw at them any simple, straightforward concept, and they will turn it into knots and twist it and delay it til infinium. That’s the real problem we face, my friends.

Well said, TikTak. The real issue, at the core of all this, is the culture. The way we do things in Lebanon. And the complete lack of understanding of the real concepts of Democracy, of having a civil discussion, of having any kind of transparency or accountability. All these concepts are completely foreign to these people.

Well said and right on TikTak! And this is why our Leb is so doomed. Where are the progressive thinkers, why does 2+2 always equal 5?

It’s partly our fault as well, rather than having sit-ins and marches based on agenda’s that are unsolvable, because they are diametrically at the opposite end of each others spectrum, we should be demanding truth, accountability and live public debates. Bring the dirty laundry and hidden agendas out in the open and expose these blatant, worthless pieces of crap for what they are. Maybe then us Lebs will stop following so blindly.

It will never be perfect since BS in politics is inherently snide anyway, but at least we could close the gap of understanding to at least have a hope and a prayer.

We need to have that debate, but not between the politicians. They don’t know how.

That debate should occur between the civilized, educated and rational generation. It should be televised for the world to see the ‘good side of Lebanese and Lebanon’.

The civil campaign for electoral reform will be circulating tomorrow with Annahar, Akhbar, and Al Balad a special flyer on the 1960 electoral law.