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	<title>Comments on: “But They Are Just Poor People Demonstrating Against Economic Hardship”</title>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BV, many thanks for the most acute and sensible comment I read on this blog in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BV, many thanks for the most acute and sensible comment I read on this blog in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, BV and I are on the same page.  Sami wants everyone to demonstrate?  I agree.  Let them all go to downtown and &quot;demonstrate&quot; against those who have brought such misery on Lebanon.

It&#039;s time - time to take a very hard look at who is causing all this misery and put a stop to it.  Time for the people to &quot;demonstrate&quot;.  Great idea Sami ... I approve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, BV and I are on the same page.  Sami wants everyone to demonstrate?  I agree.  Let them all go to downtown and &#8220;demonstrate&#8221; against those who have brought such misery on Lebanon.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time &#8211; time to take a very hard look at who is causing all this misery and put a stop to it.  Time for the people to &#8220;demonstrate&#8221;.  Great idea Sami &#8230; I approve.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Vilbel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Vilbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd that people are protesting economic hardships against the government and not against those who started a destructive war that cost billions in dollars, and losses in tourism. Or those who paralyze all the state institutions. Or those who paralyze downtown Beirut. Or those who close the border to incoming imports of food. Or those who burn tires and prevent people from getting to work and earning a living.

I find it odd.

The Lebanese people are stupid, apparently. Here&#039;s a newsflash, folks: As long as you promote a culture of instability, death, martyrdom, resistance, and as long as you prevent the institutions from working, and law and order from prevailing, you WILL incur economic hardship.
Nothing brings economic prosperity like stability, a functional state, peace with your neighbours, and a civil, democratic way of resolving differences at the polls.
Nothing brings hardship and unemployment quicker than war, resistance, paralyzed institutions, lack of law and order, and burning tires.

Word to the wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd that people are protesting economic hardships against the government and not against those who started a destructive war that cost billions in dollars, and losses in tourism. Or those who paralyze all the state institutions. Or those who paralyze downtown Beirut. Or those who close the border to incoming imports of food. Or those who burn tires and prevent people from getting to work and earning a living.</p>
<p>I find it odd.</p>
<p>The Lebanese people are stupid, apparently. Here&#8217;s a newsflash, folks: As long as you promote a culture of instability, death, martyrdom, resistance, and as long as you prevent the institutions from working, and law and order from prevailing, you WILL incur economic hardship.<br />
Nothing brings economic prosperity like stability, a functional state, peace with your neighbours, and a civil, democratic way of resolving differences at the polls.<br />
Nothing brings hardship and unemployment quicker than war, resistance, paralyzed institutions, lack of law and order, and burning tires.</p>
<p>Word to the wise.</p>
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		<title>By: someone like you</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone like you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sami: sure thing dude, if things are not going well - you must protest. The problem is to protest because you&#039;re ordered to do so.
I don&#039;t think the mullah-money that rains on some parts of the country, as pointed by  Danny, comes without a price tag: &quot;no free will&quot;

While on the topic of &quot;ghost workers&quot;, if counted both M14 and M8 ghost, even the cast from poltergeist would be scared.
But, as said countless times before (yeah BV, it&#039;s you) with M14 you CAN VOTE and remove them IF you don&#039;t like them, renewing the parliament, while NOT stopping the country. Of course, this works best when you&#039;re free to choose your candidate and not the usual &quot;do as I say&quot; that feudal lords from both sides of the divide do.

I just hope that both the M8 and M14 supporters don&#039;t turn to an old party &quot;M16&quot; - against each other (never mind the ak&#039;s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sami: sure thing dude, if things are not going well &#8211; you must protest. The problem is to protest because you&#8217;re ordered to do so.<br />
I don&#8217;t think the mullah-money that rains on some parts of the country, as pointed by  Danny, comes without a price tag: &#8220;no free will&#8221;</p>
<p>While on the topic of &#8220;ghost workers&#8221;, if counted both M14 and M8 ghost, even the cast from poltergeist would be scared.<br />
But, as said countless times before (yeah BV, it&#8217;s you) with M14 you CAN VOTE and remove them IF you don&#8217;t like them, renewing the parliament, while NOT stopping the country. Of course, this works best when you&#8217;re free to choose your candidate and not the usual &#8220;do as I say&#8221; that feudal lords from both sides of the divide do.</p>
<p>I just hope that both the M8 and M14 supporters don&#8217;t turn to an old party &#8220;M16&#8243; &#8211; against each other (never mind the ak&#8217;s).</p>
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		<title>By: Sami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that regardless of your affiliations, you must protest.

Both sides should feel the pressure of the people to agree. I really don&#039;t think that either M8 suppporters of M14 supporters are happy with the status quo.

Yet, the leaders of these movements seem to think that they have all the time in the world. How long should we let this continue?

I still don&#039;t understand why don&#039;t we go for early parliamentary elections to determine the true majority and opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that regardless of your affiliations, you must protest.</p>
<p>Both sides should feel the pressure of the people to agree. I really don&#8217;t think that either M8 suppporters of M14 supporters are happy with the status quo.</p>
<p>Yet, the leaders of these movements seem to think that they have all the time in the world. How long should we let this continue?</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t understand why don&#8217;t we go for early parliamentary elections to determine the true majority and opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mustapha,

I disagree with the idea that: &quot;Opposition areas like the south, Dahieh and Bikaa have a lot of angry youths and empty streets, while Majority areas are leading normal lives with normal business activity&quot;...How did you come to this assessment?
I think the reverse is correct. HA areas are covered by the bags of $$$ HA distributes to its &quot;soldiers&quot;, be that civil or military uniform. To some estimates it has 150,000 people on Salary, also they scam off government ministries without working (ghost workers on HA/amal controlled ministries)...


So how can the other side be better. This is falling into the stereotyping!
The difference is that the other side tries to work and gets $$ from people who are working abroad.

As mentioned by S.L.Y. above, you cannot kill the economy and rape it then blame the victim!!

Just another opinion!
just my opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mustapha,</p>
<p>I disagree with the idea that: &#8220;Opposition areas like the south, Dahieh and Bikaa have a lot of angry youths and empty streets, while Majority areas are leading normal lives with normal business activity&#8221;&#8230;How did you come to this assessment?<br />
I think the reverse is correct. HA areas are covered by the bags of $$$ HA distributes to its &#8220;soldiers&#8221;, be that civil or military uniform. To some estimates it has 150,000 people on Salary, also they scam off government ministries without working (ghost workers on HA/amal controlled ministries)&#8230;</p>
<p>So how can the other side be better. This is falling into the stereotyping!<br />
The difference is that the other side tries to work and gets $$ from people who are working abroad.</p>
<p>As mentioned by S.L.Y. above, you cannot kill the economy and rape it then blame the victim!!</p>
<p>Just another opinion!<br />
just my opinion</p>
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		<title>By: someone like you</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone like you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are many ways to solve economic problems. But forcing the economy into a standstill is not one of them&quot;

Yes, but there are much less ways of keeping guns and being a vassal doing  your suzerain&#039;s biddings.

It&#039;s just a question of perspective - or lack of one....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are many ways to solve economic problems. But forcing the economy into a standstill is not one of them&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but there are much less ways of keeping guns and being a vassal doing  your suzerain&#8217;s biddings.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a question of perspective &#8211; or lack of one&#8230;.</p>
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