Comments on: Hold The Fireworks http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/ Blogging Lebanon since 2005 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:42:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dory http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9314 dory Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:36:58 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9314 WOW! What an ingenious 'coup de theatre'. The Syrian diplomacy deserve a standing ovation. Allow me to quote Niccolo Machiavelli: "The promises given were a necessitiy of the past the words broken are a necessity of the present". The arab initiative-mark my words- is doomed to failure. The arabs are going to be deceived unfortunately, the arab league is a fertile ground to all ingenious methods of maneuver from the Syrian side. The Syrians feel they have the upper hand, no arab state including Saudi Arabia and Egypt is willing to pressure Syria or to isolate it further. Many reasons ar holding the Arabs back, the most obvious is that Syria is capable of instigating a wide Sunni-chiite confrontation that will most probably put the monarchs to their knees. The Europeans, France in particular is offering nothing but reinstating diplomatic relations in return of a transparent conduct rom the Syrian regime-lack of efficient diplomacy- the US is like an injured bear who cannot resort to attack strategies anymore. The International Tribunal-the core issue of the impasse-IS THE DEAL-BREAKER. Is the unjured bear ready to negociate on the Hariris'fate and on the truth lebanon is so eager to learn. Again I will end my comment with a quote from my favorite Niccolo Machiavelli:"Politics have no relations to Morals". WOW!
What an ingenious ‘coup de theatre’. The Syrian diplomacy deserve a standing ovation.
Allow me to quote Niccolo Machiavelli: “The promises given were a necessitiy of the past the words broken are a necessity of the present”.
The arab initiative-mark my words- is doomed to failure. The arabs are going to be deceived unfortunately, the arab league is a fertile ground to all ingenious methods of maneuver from the Syrian side. The Syrians feel they have the upper hand, no arab state including Saudi Arabia and Egypt is willing to pressure Syria or to isolate it further. Many reasons ar holding the Arabs back, the most obvious is that Syria is capable of instigating a wide Sunni-chiite confrontation that will most probably put the monarchs to their knees. The Europeans, France in particular is offering nothing but reinstating diplomatic relations in return of a transparent conduct rom the Syrian regime-lack of efficient diplomacy- the US is like an injured bear who cannot resort to attack strategies anymore. The International Tribunal-the core issue of the impasse-IS THE DEAL-BREAKER. Is the unjured bear ready to negociate on the Hariris’fate and on the truth lebanon is so eager to learn. Again I will end my comment with a quote from my favorite Niccolo Machiavelli:”Politics have no relations to Morals”.

]]> By: Welcome | Project on Middle East Democracy http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9313 Welcome | Project on Middle East Democracy Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:29:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9313 [...] In the Christian Science Monitor, Nicholas Blanford discusses the ongoing efforts of the Arab League to help resolve the political crisis in Lebanon.  Arab ministers agreed in Cairo on Saturday to the following two actions: the immediate passage of a constitutional amendment to allow Michel Suleiman to become President and the formation of national unity government.  On his blog, Joshua Landis describes the Arab League proposal as giving ”the Maronite president more power than he has had since the Taif Agreement of 1989 empowered the Sunni Prime Minister at the expense of the Maronites.”  While Landis highlights that Syria’s compromise will be utilized to cultivate a friendly relationship with the Lebanese Christian community, Mustapha at Beirut Spring urges caution on the deal, citing the external threat of Iran’s influence. [...] [...] In the Christian Science Monitor, Nicholas Blanford discusses the ongoing efforts of the Arab League to help resolve the political crisis in Lebanon.  Arab ministers agreed in Cairo on Saturday to the following two actions: the immediate passage of a constitutional amendment to allow Michel Suleiman to become President and the formation of national unity government.  On his blog, Joshua Landis describes the Arab League proposal as giving ”the Maronite president more power than he has had since the Taif Agreement of 1989 empowered the Sunni Prime Minister at the expense of the Maronites.”  While Landis highlights that Syria’s compromise will be utilized to cultivate a friendly relationship with the Lebanese Christian community, Mustapha at Beirut Spring urges caution on the deal, citing the external threat of Iran’s influence. [...]

]]> By: Danny http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9312 Danny Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:06:02 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9312 I had this comment @ Tony: "Amr Mousa is the most irrelevant person in Middle East.People should not put too much into anything coming out of AL. Syria's posturing to make sure they do not get the March meet cancelled. As stated above by BV. read Syrian answer: FAI, Rockets, bombs... Today: Karami, Wahab, Samaha... Tomorrow: a few more explosions, franjieh, Orangebutt, Arslan, Qandeel.. Any Questions??? I had this comment @ Tony:

“Amr Mousa is the most irrelevant person in Middle East.People should not put too much into anything coming out of AL. Syria’s posturing to make sure they do not get the March meet cancelled.
As stated above by BV. read Syrian answer: FAI, Rockets, bombs…
Today: Karami, Wahab, Samaha…
Tomorrow: a few more explosions, franjieh, Orangebutt, Arslan, Qandeel..

Any Questions???

]]> By: Danny http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9311 Danny Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:56:47 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9311 BV Exactly... BV

Exactly…

]]> By: Mustapha http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9310 Mustapha Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:17:19 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9310 BV, Watching too much Obama stump speeches? :) BV,

Watching too much Obama stump speeches? :)

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9309 Bad Vilbel Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:59:32 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9309 And just as expected, today comes Syria's REAL response to the AL initiative: - An attack on UNIFIL - Rockets into Israel - A new audio tape from Fath Al Islam. Those who were being optimistic really need to take a look back at the track record of these initiatives. How many times will it take before people learn? I'm constantly amazed at how some people continue making the same mistakes, day after day, and yet expecting different results everytime. There's a saying about madness, right? And just as expected, today comes Syria’s REAL response to the AL initiative:

- An attack on UNIFIL
- Rockets into Israel
- A new audio tape from Fath Al Islam.

Those who were being optimistic really need to take a look back at the track record of these initiatives. How many times will it take before people learn? I’m constantly amazed at how some people continue making the same mistakes, day after day, and yet expecting different results everytime. There’s a saying about madness, right?

]]> By: Libanus http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9308 Libanus Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:52:45 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9308 This wait-and-see is killing us. Also, there are too many "spokespeople" for the M14 and M8 which is diluting their collective power and making this a very complicated situation: M14 spokespeople: Gemayel, Hariri, Seniora, Geagea, Jumblatt, Batrak, etc. M8: Hezb, Berri, Aoun. (recently Franjieh is re-emerging due to Syria's rise) What if each had 1 spokesperson only for e.g.? That would help. If M14 started by apointing a SINGLE spokesperson, and asked for M8 to do same, that might be a breakthrough and might challenge M8 to agree with each other, which might be difficult. This wait-and-see is killing us. Also, there are too many “spokespeople” for the M14 and M8 which is diluting their collective power and making this a very complicated situation:
M14 spokespeople: Gemayel, Hariri, Seniora, Geagea, Jumblatt, Batrak, etc.
M8: Hezb, Berri, Aoun. (recently Franjieh is re-emerging due to Syria’s rise)
What if each had 1 spokesperson only for e.g.? That would help.

If M14 started by apointing a SINGLE spokesperson, and asked for M8 to do same, that might be a breakthrough and might challenge M8 to agree with each other, which might be difficult.

]]> By: Lemon http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9307 Lemon Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:55:24 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9307 I'll be surprised if anything comes out of this deal. It'd be a first for the Arab League, known for its solid track record of failure. I’ll be surprised if anything comes out of this deal. It’d be a first for the Arab League, known for its solid track record of failure.

]]> By: LebanesePatriot http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9306 LebanesePatriot Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:36:19 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9306 Syria's response to the Arab League: http://14march.org/index.php?page=nd&nid=30315 ?????? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ?????? Man... How can they believe Syria's promises? The only way to deal with such a regime is by force.... Syria’s response to the Arab League:

http://14march.org/index.php?page=nd&nid=30315
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Man… How can they believe Syria’s promises?

The only way to deal with such a regime is by force….

]]> By: Danny http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9305 Danny Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:38:32 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2008/01/08/hold-the-fireworks/#comment-9305 My friend,we had no celebratory fireworks!! After all this is the AL and Syria. Dis you guys really think Bashaar suddenly changed his mind without handouts? WHY?? If you answer the question correctly then you win the biggest jackpot in the history of Vegas!!! Nothing's changed. Syria is maneuvering to make sure the AL summit does not collapse!! My friend,we had no celebratory fireworks!! After all this is the AL and Syria. Dis you guys really think Bashaar suddenly changed his mind without handouts? WHY??
If you answer the question correctly then you win the biggest jackpot in the history of Vegas!!!
Nothing’s changed. Syria is maneuvering to make sure the AL summit does not collapse!!

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