Comments on: Killing Sleiman's Would-be Successor http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/ Blogging Lebanese politics, business and society since 2005 Wed, 23 May 2012 14:09:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: dory http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8970 dory Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:58:51 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8970 This extreme confusion and the Status quo will come to an end very soon. The coming two weeks-crucial in the current turmoil-will unravel one of two things. Either Sleiman will preside in Baabda or the Vacuum will preside in the streets. In my opinion the Vacuum will prevail and chaos will decide the forthcoming events. None of you had commented on the 'dahieh' uprising few days ago, brought to an end by the army. This futile event was the instigator of something bigger followed by a grenade in Ain el remaneh and culminating with the assasination of Hajj. If one analyses the syrian comments-if Lebanon does not elect a president it is not the end of the world-and the above mentionned events, will understand that the opposition is ready to take control specially that the international pressure has been lifted from Syria and the Europeans are showing signs of cooperation-what jumblat had picked up long before-. What does this mean? very simply, the equation says if the assasinations brought the majority to its concession and brought with it the international pressure to a halt, its time to 'harvest the crop'! The lieutenant hajj assasination is nothing but a message to the Army and to what it represents -the last stronghold on the terrane- that if Sleiman favoured by the majority and its allies Egypt, the Saudis and Jordan thinks of stopping M8 from achieving its final objectives he would have crossed the red line( already not honoured when Hassan Nasrallah drew it during the nahr el bared war) This is a clear reminder to the Army that it did not honour the red line once and it is forbidden to independntly control security on the ground. The message was swift and clear, even the highest ranked officers within the army and its whole intelligence apparatus are within reach and could be brought to its knees. How much could the army ad its General-president- resist(he already refused concessions to Aoun and his allies)no one knows. Our only hope is that the army does not become vulnerable to all these intimidations. My fellow Lebanese I will be very honest with you, I sadly believe that the M14 uprising is nothing but history(missed opportunity) the events that will unravel shortly will demonstrate my feelings. Gen Sleiman unfortunately is not that solid! (he planned to flee Lebanon(with a false French passport) after the Syrian troops withdrawl, fearing reprisal against him. We need Strong courages leaders to surmount what is coming further. I am afraid no one will carry joubran and Pierre's torch. This extreme confusion and the Status quo will come to an end very soon. The coming two weeks-crucial in the current turmoil-will unravel one of two things. Either Sleiman will preside in Baabda or the Vacuum will preside in the streets. In my opinion the Vacuum will prevail and chaos will decide the forthcoming events. None of you had commented on the ‘dahieh’ uprising few days ago, brought to an end by the army. This futile event was the instigator of something bigger followed by a grenade in Ain el remaneh and culminating with the assasination of Hajj. If one analyses the syrian comments-if Lebanon does not elect a president it is not the end of the world-and the above mentionned events, will understand that the opposition is ready to take control specially that the international pressure has been lifted from Syria and the Europeans are showing signs of cooperation-what jumblat had picked up long before-. What does this mean? very simply, the equation says if the assasinations brought the majority to its concession and brought with it the international pressure to a halt, its time to ‘harvest the crop’! The lieutenant hajj assasination is nothing but a message to the Army and to what it represents -the last stronghold on the terrane- that if Sleiman favoured by the majority and its allies Egypt, the Saudis and Jordan thinks of stopping M8 from achieving its final objectives he would have crossed the red line( already not honoured when Hassan Nasrallah drew it during the nahr el bared war) This is a clear reminder to the Army that it did not honour the red line once and it is forbidden to independntly control security on the ground. The message was swift and clear, even the highest ranked officers within the army and its whole intelligence apparatus are within reach and could be brought to its knees. How much could the army ad its General-president- resist(he already refused concessions to Aoun and his allies)no one knows. Our only hope is that the army does not become vulnerable to all these intimidations. My fellow Lebanese I will be very honest with you, I sadly believe that the M14 uprising is nothing but history(missed opportunity) the events that will unravel shortly will demonstrate my feelings. Gen Sleiman unfortunately is not that solid! (he planned to flee Lebanon(with a false French passport) after the Syrian troops withdrawl, fearing reprisal against him. We need Strong courages leaders to surmount what is coming further. I am afraid no one will carry joubran and Pierre’s torch.

]]> By: Lover http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8969 Lover Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:30:25 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8969 "Who benefits from this killing except syria, Iran and their lebanese proxies?" You see, now that is bullshit, cummon. Imagine how happy Hezbollah would be to have Speaker of Parliament, President AND military commander as friendlies? All they have left is the cabinet and PM - which will be renewed after the President is elected! I mean this was the best thing that could happen to them, ensured that the cabinet would step down. “Who benefits from this killing except syria, Iran and their lebanese proxies?”

You see, now that is bullshit, cummon. Imagine how happy Hezbollah would be to have Speaker of Parliament, President AND military commander as friendlies? All they have left is the cabinet and PM – which will be renewed after the President is elected!

I mean this was the best thing that could happen to them, ensured that the cabinet would step down.

]]> By: Abu Hatem http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8968 Abu Hatem Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:12:03 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8968 Mostapha, Glad to see your posting. I hope your enjoying your time in qut3at al-sama' Lubnan. I think this is the point where all the Arabs come out and make up their conspiracy theories which can often be pretty ridiculous. I don't know who did this, but I think what matters more is what the implications of this are and how to save the country. Mostapha,

Glad to see your posting. I hope your enjoying your time in qut3at al-sama’ Lubnan.

I think this is the point where all the Arabs come out and make up their conspiracy theories which can often be pretty ridiculous. I don’t know who did this, but I think what matters more is what the implications of this are and how to save the country.

]]> By: anthem boy http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8967 anthem boy Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:54:47 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8967 when are real lebanese (not syrian/iranian trained/brainwashed hezbollah thugs) going to fucking stand up and give syria a kick to the balls?? come on already!! its better to die fighting than to serve on your knees. when are real lebanese (not syrian/iranian trained/brainwashed hezbollah thugs) going to fucking stand up and give syria a kick to the balls?? come on already!! its better to die fighting than to serve on your knees.

]]> By: EV http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8966 EV Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:16:48 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8966 I second a takeover coup by the military I second a takeover coup by the military

]]> By: Libanus http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8965 Libanus Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:11:37 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8965 I think Lebanon needs a military government now for 12 months at least, to clean everything out. Let them impose a state police that can find all these assassins. And let them find a few collaborators and hang them publicly in front of all. I think Lebanon needs a military government now for 12 months at least, to clean everything out. Let them impose a state police that can find all these assassins.
And let them find a few collaborators and hang them publicly in front of all.

]]> By: Right Wing Nut House » LEBANON BLEEDS AS COMPROMISE SLIPS AWAY http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8964 Right Wing Nut House » LEBANON BLEEDS AS COMPROMISE SLIPS AWAY Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:24:41 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8964 [...] Mustapha at Beirut Spring: [...] [...] Mustapha at Beirut Spring: [...]

]]> By: JAT http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8963 JAT Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:38:29 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8963 I agree with MMsays. This was a warning to Suleiman and a reminder of what to expect if he ever warmed up to M14. The general has been flirting with the majority and even hinting at implementing UN resolutions as a way to assure M14 that he shares some of their views. The opposition's waffling on his candidacy is also an indication of displeasure with some of his views though they are not very well defined. This is also an attempt at undermining the Army as the legitimate protector of Lebanon. This situation gets more and more dangerous and yet our wonderful and wise leaders choose to hurl insults and accusations at one another. I agree with MMsays. This was a warning to Suleiman and a reminder of what to expect if he ever warmed up to M14. The general has been flirting with the majority and even hinting at implementing UN resolutions as a way to assure M14 that he shares some of their views. The opposition’s waffling on his candidacy is also an indication of displeasure with some of his views though they are not very well defined. This is also an attempt at undermining the Army as the legitimate protector of Lebanon. This situation gets more and more dangerous and yet our wonderful and wise leaders choose to hurl insults and accusations at one another.

]]> By: MM http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8962 MM Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:01:49 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8962 This is a message to Sleiman pure and simple. First came Berri's delaying tactic in amending the constitution then came the glorified Hizb's stance that the Orange general is their only candidate then came this. Message is if Sleiman dares be neutral and not be a carbon copy of Lahoud then here is what we can do. This is also a reminder to Berri that in the unlikely event he ever regains any sense of national decency that the long arm of Bashar can reach anyone. This is a message to Sleiman pure and simple. First came Berri’s delaying tactic in amending the constitution then came the glorified Hizb’s stance that the Orange general is their only candidate then came this. Message is if Sleiman dares be neutral and not be a carbon copy of Lahoud then here is what we can do. This is also a reminder to Berri that in the unlikely event he ever regains any sense of national decency that the long arm of Bashar can reach anyone.

]]> By: JAS http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8961 JAS Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:15:04 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/12/12/killing-sleimans-would-be-successor/#comment-8961 If a large percent of Lebanese youth are as deadheaded as Fadi, the Dark Age of Lebanon is certain to continue. IMO the inability of large masses to reason beyond Medieval standards has been and continues to be demonstrated clearly. If a large percent of Lebanese youth are as deadheaded as Fadi, the Dark Age of Lebanon is certain to continue. IMO the inability of large masses to reason beyond Medieval standards has been and continues to be demonstrated clearly.

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