Comments on: State Of Emergency…Not http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/ Blogging Lebanon since 2005 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:02:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ralf http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8633 Ralf Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:13:22 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8633 Vox, i don't think that you can say this. We were not able to rid ourselves of Lahoud. That is a shameful loss for M14 who promised to put Lahoud out two years ago. He did stay until "the last minute" of his mandate. Lahoud 'aratna kellna! Vox, i don’t think that you can say this. We were not able to rid ourselves of Lahoud. That is a shameful loss for M14 who promised to put Lahoud out two years ago. He did stay until “the last minute” of his mandate. Lahoud ‘aratna kellna!

]]> By: rosignol http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8632 rosignol Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:11:24 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8632 <i>Because some geniuses want to avoid confrontation for fear of conflict and complete chaos. What they forget is that out of conflict new opportunities to resolve crises arise.</i> Unfortunately, many groups take "new opportunities to resolve crises" to mean "it's ok to shoot the neighbors". <i>Instead, we are being constantly bombarded with consensus and preserving civil peace slogans.</i> Yep. The people in charge today remember the past and do not want to repeat it. You may want to read this- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War Specifically... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_Massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_%28Lebanon%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karantina_Massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damour_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_al-Zaatar_Massacre ...and that is far from a complete list. Please consider the possibility that the people talking about consensus and civil peace have good reasons for doing so. Because some geniuses want to avoid confrontation for fear of conflict and complete chaos. What they forget is that out of conflict new opportunities to resolve crises arise.

Unfortunately, many groups take “new opportunities to resolve crises” to mean “it’s ok to shoot the neighbors”.

Instead, we are being constantly bombarded with consensus and preserving civil peace slogans.

Yep. The people in charge today remember the past and do not want to repeat it. You may want to read this-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

Specifically…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_Massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_%28Lebanon%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karantina_Massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damour_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_al-Zaatar_Massacre

…and that is far from a complete list.

Please consider the possibility that the people talking about consensus and civil peace have good reasons for doing so.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Lebanon: State of Emergency..Or Not http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8631 Global Voices Online » Lebanon: State of Emergency..Or Not Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:28:30 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8631 [...] Mustapha further clarifies the situation on the ground and writes: An important clarification for outside observers who are overstating Mr. Lahhoud’s statement. The outgoing Lebanese President did NOT declare a state of Emergency or Martial law. The statement that caused the confusion was this: “the threats that require a state of emergency prevail over Lebanon”. What Mr. Lahhoud effectively did was assign the Army to take care of the security on the ground. A redundant procedure given that the Seniora government had already done that. If anything, the statement by the soon-to-be ex-President reveals his incapacity to do anything more serious. All comparisons with Pakistan, Jordan, or Egypt, where the Army heavy-handedly represses the people, should immediately be removed from your heads. [...] [...] Mustapha further clarifies the situation on the ground and writes: An important clarification for outside observers who are overstating Mr. Lahhoud’s statement. The outgoing Lebanese President did NOT declare a state of Emergency or Martial law. The statement that caused the confusion was this: “the threats that require a state of emergency prevail over Lebanon”. What Mr. Lahhoud effectively did was assign the Army to take care of the security on the ground. A redundant procedure given that the Seniora government had already done that. If anything, the statement by the soon-to-be ex-President reveals his incapacity to do anything more serious. All comparisons with Pakistan, Jordan, or Egypt, where the Army heavy-handedly represses the people, should immediately be removed from your heads. [...]

]]> By: LebanesePatriot http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8630 LebanesePatriot Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:45:14 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8630 ???????? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ??? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ??? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ??? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ??? ?? ???? ?? ????

]]> By: Mustapha http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8629 Mustapha Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:35:53 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8629 MK, I converted your comment into a new post. MK,

I converted your comment into a new post.

]]> By: Vox http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8628 Vox Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:22:24 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8628 Well we got rid of Lahouss, that's still something. Well we got rid of Lahouss, that’s still something.

]]> By: LebanesePatriot http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8627 LebanesePatriot Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:55:15 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8627 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_election ""BEIRUT, Lebanon - President Emile Lahoud said Friday that Lebanon is in a "state of emergency" and ordered the army to take over security powers, hours before he was stepping down without a successor and leaving a political vacuum in the divided country."" Bull Shit..... This guy should be in prison. It is time for M14 to just elect a president that is 100% Lebanese. We should not have vacuum. LebanesePatriot http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_election

“”BEIRUT, Lebanon – President Emile Lahoud said Friday that Lebanon is in a “state of emergency” and ordered the army to take over security powers, hours before he was stepping down without a successor and leaving a political vacuum in the divided country.”"

Bull Shit….. This guy should be in prison.

It is time for M14 to just elect a president that is 100% Lebanese. We should not have vacuum.

LebanesePatriot

]]> By: theCourtFool http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8626 theCourtFool Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:49:35 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8626 Yes I agree the Army taking charge for the next 7 days. Yes I agree the Army taking charge for the next 7 days.

]]> By: Amir in Tel Aviv http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8625 Amir in Tel Aviv Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:18:45 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8625 State of idiocy. Emil's idiocy. . State of idiocy. Emil’s idiocy.
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]]> By: Danny http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8624 Danny Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:09:21 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/23/state-of-emergencynot/#comment-8624 Hey, the initial confusion. However, in Lebanon everyone interprets it their way much like the constitution...We'll stay tuned. Hey,

the initial confusion. However, in Lebanon everyone interprets it their way much like the constitution…We’ll stay tuned.

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