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	<title>Comments on: Kouchner Makes Startling Discovery: Lebanon Is A Treacherous Place</title>
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		<title>By: Sarkozy’s Empty Threats? &#124; The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/19/kouchner-makes-startling-discovery-lebanon-is-a-treacherous-place/#comment-8536</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarkozy’s Empty Threats? &#124; The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But one can’t help but ask: Does Mr. Sarkozy have the ability and wherewithal to face the Assad regime? Le President hyperactif - le Lapin Duracel as he’s known in France- strikes the portrait of a tough-talking man in charge who’s nevertheless anxious for quick results. His dealing with the Bulgarian nurses crisis, the French strikers and recently, the Lebanese crisis, indicate that he’s willing to strike deals at the expense of some declared ideals. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But one can’t help but ask: Does Mr. Sarkozy have the ability and wherewithal to face the Assad regime? Le President hyperactif &#8211; le Lapin Duracel as he’s known in France- strikes the portrait of a tough-talking man in charge who’s nevertheless anxious for quick results. His dealing with the Bulgarian nurses crisis, the French strikers and recently, the Lebanese crisis, indicate that he’s willing to strike deals at the expense of some declared ideals. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Libanus</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/11/19/kouchner-makes-startling-discovery-lebanon-is-a-treacherous-place/#comment-8535</link>
		<dc:creator>Libanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad truth is that- we wouldn&#039;t be in this situation had the Israelis not made the fundamental mistake to attack all of Lebanon last year, instead of just Hezbollah.
To say that Hezbollah&#039;s position was emboldened and strengthened after the July is an understatement.
The scenario that should have happened was that Hezbollah should have been cornered on one side from Israel, and on the other from the Lebanese themselves who would have revolted against them.
There is nothing Lebanese about Hezbollah, at least not the Lebanon I grew-up in.
I hope the Majority will be strong enough and hold-on to their position. Aoun will sway like the wind later. How can he turn against his fellow Christians afterwards?
Let democracy prevail, and let non-sense get burried in a coffin back to Tehran or Damascus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad truth is that- we wouldn&#8217;t be in this situation had the Israelis not made the fundamental mistake to attack all of Lebanon last year, instead of just Hezbollah.<br />
To say that Hezbollah&#8217;s position was emboldened and strengthened after the July is an understatement.<br />
The scenario that should have happened was that Hezbollah should have been cornered on one side from Israel, and on the other from the Lebanese themselves who would have revolted against them.<br />
There is nothing Lebanese about Hezbollah, at least not the Lebanon I grew-up in.<br />
I hope the Majority will be strong enough and hold-on to their position. Aoun will sway like the wind later. How can he turn against his fellow Christians afterwards?<br />
Let democracy prevail, and let non-sense get burried in a coffin back to Tehran or Damascus.</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Other Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again, the entire sorry saga has been heading towards confrontation for the last 12 months. for all with any sense of realism, what is happening now is not a surprise. perhaps the fine detail will keep us all guessing, however the end result is confrontation for certain elements are playing for keeps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, the entire sorry saga has been heading towards confrontation for the last 12 months. for all with any sense of realism, what is happening now is not a surprise. perhaps the fine detail will keep us all guessing, however the end result is confrontation for certain elements are playing for keeps.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The secret is the puppet-moron Najad who threatened Sarkozy couple of days ago of destroying the French interest in Lebanon, if France keep pressure on Iran  in regards to nukes.
In other words destroying Lebanon and accusing all non-hizballah as being related to French or American interest, therefor shall be killed! Persian Najad made judgment and we shall obey! No respect to Lebanon and in its sovereignty and the will of its people. How? Of course, senior jackass Khameni will give the orders, via Welayat El Faquih fatwa, to junior jackass Nassrallah hiding in his cave in Dahyié. And yallah, the terrorist militia will start terror and proxy terror (Syrian Mukhabarat, Aoun etc.)

Would Hizballah surprise everyone and play rational? We will know very soon. If that the case, this is Al Taqia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The secret is the puppet-moron Najad who threatened Sarkozy couple of days ago of destroying the French interest in Lebanon, if France keep pressure on Iran  in regards to nukes.<br />
In other words destroying Lebanon and accusing all non-hizballah as being related to French or American interest, therefor shall be killed! Persian Najad made judgment and we shall obey! No respect to Lebanon and in its sovereignty and the will of its people. How? Of course, senior jackass Khameni will give the orders, via Welayat El Faquih fatwa, to junior jackass Nassrallah hiding in his cave in Dahyié. And yallah, the terrorist militia will start terror and proxy terror (Syrian Mukhabarat, Aoun etc.)</p>
<p>Would Hizballah surprise everyone and play rational? We will know very soon. If that the case, this is Al Taqia!</p>
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		<title>By: frenchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>frenchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Joey
It seems you are not reading the rought news to make your own analysis.

Things are more complicated then what is just said and we are assisting to a recomposition of the lebanese political scene.

Just check out the things eclipsed by the presidential election, going on in the Baabda Aley circonscription...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Joey<br />
It seems you are not reading the rought news to make your own analysis.</p>
<p>Things are more complicated then what is just said and we are assisting to a recomposition of the lebanese political scene.</p>
<p>Just check out the things eclipsed by the presidential election, going on in the Baabda Aley circonscription&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep telling you - it&#039;s a &quot;language problem&quot;.  The so-called &#039;opposition&#039; says &quot;compromise&quot; &amp; &quot;consensus&quot; and that means .... &quot;give Nasrallah what he demands&quot;.  Nothing less.

Aoun is almost out of this deal and he knows it.  He is not Nasrallah&#039;s choice and that became evident in the &quot;negotiations&#039;.  Suleiman is the choice.  The USA has a very serious &quot;red line&quot; on this whole matter.  Bush will not negotiate with Syria over Lebanon, and with Iran over the nuclear deal.  He won&#039;t do it.  IF Lebanon caves to Nasrallah - the USA will walk away and check and see how you are doing in 10 years or so.  That means the International Tribunal is very at risk - I don&#039;t Hariri will risk that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep telling you &#8211; it&#8217;s a &#8220;language problem&#8221;.  The so-called &#8216;opposition&#8217; says &#8220;compromise&#8221; &amp; &#8220;consensus&#8221; and that means &#8230;. &#8220;give Nasrallah what he demands&#8221;.  Nothing less.</p>
<p>Aoun is almost out of this deal and he knows it.  He is not Nasrallah&#8217;s choice and that became evident in the &#8220;negotiations&#8217;.  Suleiman is the choice.  The USA has a very serious &#8220;red line&#8221; on this whole matter.  Bush will not negotiate with Syria over Lebanon, and with Iran over the nuclear deal.  He won&#8217;t do it.  IF Lebanon caves to Nasrallah &#8211; the USA will walk away and check and see how you are doing in 10 years or so.  That means the International Tribunal is very at risk &#8211; I don&#8217;t Hariri will risk that.</p>
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		<title>By: JoseyWales</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoseyWales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake up and smell the cafe Frenchy.

You&#039;re still trying to defend Aoun&#039;s madness, I feel for you it&#039;s getting harder.

Goddammit, Aoun said two days ago that even a 2/3 election is not good enough for him.  Enough bullshit, defend that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up and smell the cafe Frenchy.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re still trying to defend Aoun&#8217;s madness, I feel for you it&#8217;s getting harder.</p>
<p>Goddammit, Aoun said two days ago that even a 2/3 election is not good enough for him.  Enough bullshit, defend that!</p>
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		<title>By: Ralf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not going to do a &quot;commentaire compose&quot; now for what Kouchner said: for it to be an agreement there must be two parts that agree, and more importantly a middle ground accepted by both. Unfortunately the middle ground is not there because each has and is sticking to his beliefs. The 14 will not accept Aoun for president and the 8 wants only Aoun for president. End of story!
Now lets put the talking aside and lets see some muscles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not going to do a &#8220;commentaire compose&#8221; now for what Kouchner said: for it to be an agreement there must be two parts that agree, and more importantly a middle ground accepted by both. Unfortunately the middle ground is not there because each has and is sticking to his beliefs. The 14 will not accept Aoun for president and the 8 wants only Aoun for president. End of story!<br />
Now lets put the talking aside and lets see some muscles!</p>
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		<title>By: frenchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>frenchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moreover i m having some interrogation toward again the lebanese medias and an nahar especially.
The sentence stated in the beginning by my dear college in blogging Moustafa is like a &quot;morceau choisi&quot; which is incomplete as all the paragraph is more interesting ...

for ex kouchner is very fond of ironical formulas and to understand him it is better to have all the sentences he pronounced...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moreover i m having some interrogation toward again the lebanese medias and an nahar especially.<br />
The sentence stated in the beginning by my dear college in blogging Moustafa is like a &#8220;morceau choisi&#8221; which is incomplete as all the paragraph is more interesting &#8230;</p>
<p>for ex kouchner is very fond of ironical formulas and to understand him it is better to have all the sentences he pronounced&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: frenchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>frenchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Danny

i guess you do not know it is a little bit more complicated. It seems many parties are here involved in the current blocage. It can be a part of the opposition or a part of the majority with geagea for ex refusing consensus

I guess you do not read the MAEE report (the official reports of the french governement). They state as following:

&quot;Je le répète, les Syriens étaient d&#039;accord. Je voudrais savoir qui n&#039;est pas d&#039;accord. Je voudrais savoir qui a intérêt au chaos, qui a intérêt à ce que l&#039;élection ne puisse avoir lieu. Qui a intérêt à ce que ce soit plus compliqué encore pour la vie de tous les Libanais. Nous sommes des amis des Libanais, cela ne veut pas dire que nous ne sommes pas des amis des chrétiens. Nous sommes les amis des chrétiens aussi. Je voudrais savoir qui bloque, qui portera la responsabilité. Celui qui portera la responsabilité d&#039;avoir bloqué ce processus accepté par tout le monde portera la responsabilité de la déstabilisation du Liban et de ses conséquences régionales. Je voudrais qu&#039;il en prenne conscience, qu&#039;ils en prennent conscience, et qu&#039;ils soient sûrs que la France le fera savoir au monde entier.

Q - Vous pensez que le général Aoun est derrière ce blocage ?

R - Je ne parle pas du général Aoun, je l&#039;ai rencontré. Je parle en général de tous les Libanais et je rencontrerai à nouveau le général Aoun. Je ne pense pas qu&#039;il soit responsable de ce blocage&quot;

So it seems it is more complicated then what the press reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Danny</p>
<p>i guess you do not know it is a little bit more complicated. It seems many parties are here involved in the current blocage. It can be a part of the opposition or a part of the majority with geagea for ex refusing consensus</p>
<p>I guess you do not read the MAEE report (the official reports of the french governement). They state as following:</p>
<p>&#8220;Je le répète, les Syriens étaient d&#8217;accord. Je voudrais savoir qui n&#8217;est pas d&#8217;accord. Je voudrais savoir qui a intérêt au chaos, qui a intérêt à ce que l&#8217;élection ne puisse avoir lieu. Qui a intérêt à ce que ce soit plus compliqué encore pour la vie de tous les Libanais. Nous sommes des amis des Libanais, cela ne veut pas dire que nous ne sommes pas des amis des chrétiens. Nous sommes les amis des chrétiens aussi. Je voudrais savoir qui bloque, qui portera la responsabilité. Celui qui portera la responsabilité d&#8217;avoir bloqué ce processus accepté par tout le monde portera la responsabilité de la déstabilisation du Liban et de ses conséquences régionales. Je voudrais qu&#8217;il en prenne conscience, qu&#8217;ils en prennent conscience, et qu&#8217;ils soient sûrs que la France le fera savoir au monde entier.</p>
<p>Q &#8211; Vous pensez que le général Aoun est derrière ce blocage ?</p>
<p>R &#8211; Je ne parle pas du général Aoun, je l&#8217;ai rencontré. Je parle en général de tous les Libanais et je rencontrerai à nouveau le général Aoun. Je ne pense pas qu&#8217;il soit responsable de ce blocage&#8221;</p>
<p>So it seems it is more complicated then what the press reports.</p>
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