Compromise Compromised



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It’s becoming obvious that the opposition is not looking for compromise. March 14 should pronounce the French initiative dead and get more aggressive.


Waste of time?

Why is it that in Lebanon hope always triumphs over experience?

Why is March14 still not getting it? Does the opposition have to assassinate the French Ambassador before our eternally hopeful understand that the French initiative is dead? Why is Patriarch Sfeir even bothering with the “presidential list?”

Hassan Nassrallah doesn’t like the initiative, Michel Aoun doesn’t want it, Syria pronounced it dead. Yet we somehow think that talking with the velvet glove (Nabih Berri) is a good idea.

Let’s undestand this once and for all: This is not about the opposition not wanting consensus, this is about an opposition that wants to intimidate the rest of the Lebanese with mayhem to impose their own candidate (earth to FPM: it’s not Michel Aoun)

Hariri should take the backstage and let Jumblat and Geagea do the talking.

Also read:
Gloves Off! Now Lebanon (November 14)

Related Beirut Spring posts:

• I argued in November 7 that All of the opposition’s threats are just bluffs  •  On November 6 I asked: Who on earth choses the Lebanese President?  •  I also detected on October 6 a certain double-speak on Aoun from Mr. Nassrallah

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  1.  

    It’s really just a language problem. “Consensus” means that Nasrallah gets everything he wants … everyone has to “compromise” to his position. He has made that perfectly clear in almost every speech – starting on Easter Sunday when he said there will be no more “round tables”, there will only be a table with him at the head.

    Appeasement = disaster for Lebanon, where will it stop once you start giving in to the intimidation?

    Posted by Ace | November 15, 2007, 1:12 pm

  2.  

    I totally agree, enough negotiation and enough compromise. Hizbullah already have their own program and their future plans, and they will not agree on anything that stands against their plans. And their plans are very different from March 14.
    I wish nassrallah would sometimes talk about economy and propose economic plans which are good for lebanon, and not just talk about his missles and jihad against isreal.
    It is a sad world we are in.

    Posted by Ali | November 15, 2007, 1:39 pm

  3.  

    They were never alive in the first place…simply because it is futile to deal with Hizballah, Amal, the SSNP, Murr, and Franjieh as Lebanese agents when they are in fact (and have been for years) nothing but representatives of the Syrian regime.

    Their actions since the abortion of the National Dialogue talks via Hizballah’s ignition of the July War (specifically when the issue of Hizballah’s weapons were to be discussed and the decision on the disarmament of the pro-Syrian Palestinian gangs implemented) shows as much.

    There was a hope that Aoun could make the right decision for himself, his constituents, and the country in Paris. That has now been dashed in classic Aoun fashion…

    …experience prevailing over hope.

    Posted by Blacksmith Jade | November 15, 2007, 1:43 pm

  4.  

    Mus, I’m sorry but this is one of your weaker posts.

    If March 14 go ahead and do what they want, good for them. But how have they solved the issue with Hezbollah? How are they going to disarm them? What will they solve? Not much.

    The opposition has proposed many solutions and all were blatantly rejected. There was no other solution proposed by March 14!!!
    The opposition first asked for a national unity government, it was refused. Then they asked for early elections, and this suggestion was also refused. They suggested the reform of the Constitution to have direct elections by the people, it was refused under the pretext that the Muslims will then elect the president and this objection came from people who were themselves elected by a Muslim majority in the 2005 parliamentary elections.

    The issue of Hezbollah can be solved by electing a president which can build TRUST among all parties. Why are Geagea and Jumblatt so scared of Aoun?

    Posted by Sami | November 15, 2007, 3:05 pm

  5.  

    Sami,

    I’m going to make this very short.

    What do the ’solutions’ that the opposition have presented actually solve?

    The opposition has always presented ’solutions’ on their terms, their vision of Lebanon, and in essence Syria and Iran’s idea of how Lebanon should be governed.

    Posted by m | November 15, 2007, 3:27 pm

  6.  

    Sami,

    HHHMMM How about March 14’s solution that the constitution be applied for once and we go to an election in parliament?

    Posted by Traffic | November 15, 2007, 3:44 pm

  7.  

    mustapha:
    I’m glad you are finally taking a hard stance. M14 were softening up their position as we see it. It’s high time that they see the light. The opposition is too engulfed in deadly alliances to backup from serving their foreign masters. They really don’t care about lebanon and have happily recruited a madman to serve their cause.

    We are heading to a confrontation, which will undoubtedly defuse some tensions and hopefully, bring back people to their senses.

    Posted by External Viewer | November 15, 2007, 3:46 pm

  8.  

    I have a question does this mean civil war, coz i really hope not. What do you think?

    Posted by FED UP | November 15, 2007, 3:55 pm

  9.  

    Sami said
    The opposition first asked for a national unity government, it was refused. Then they asked for early elections, and this suggestion was also refused.

    Would you take two seconds and think about what these “solutions” really are? How can you ask for a unity government when you don’t agree with the present majority government, and they don’t agree with you? How can you ask for a unity government when you simply have an agenda that you want to go ahead with, and to hell with everyone else?

    How can you ask for early elections? Do you just want to hold new elections every time the actual elections don’t give you the result you want? What is that going to accomplish?

    These are non-solutions. These are demands. “Give in to our demands.” You actually have to work at a compromise, work at the trust, to make me think a solution is being proposed. Simply saying “agree with us and give us what we want” is no solution. Nasrallah is not interested in trust, he is only interested in keeping his weapons.

    Sami, do you know what the most important part of a democracy is? The ORDERLY AND REGULAR TRANSFER OF POWER. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS FOR THE SURVIVAL OF DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS.

    If you just have a new election right after one you didn’t like, then you are in effect supporting a coup, or revolution. That is not democracy. If you refuse to hold regular elections, then you are supporting authoritarianism. Democracy doesn’t mean get your party elected and then fuck democracy.

    ORDERLY and REGULAR.

    Posted by Lewis | November 15, 2007, 4:42 pm

  10.  

    Fedup Express, you’re right, it may lead to a civil war, but this war will be faught with potatos. Baked vs Fried. Which one do you think is more righteous?

    Posted by Abraham | November 15, 2007, 4:43 pm

  11.  

    There are two things I believe firmly. 1.Iran does not want a civil war and Syria does. 2. Nasrallah can’t not accept a loss here. So, who is he going to follow – Iran? or Syria?

    My money is still on regional war + internal chaos to derail the whole process.

    Oh yeah .. Aoun is not even part of the equation, he is nothing but a pawn. He has been used like a tissue.

    Posted by Ace | November 15, 2007, 5:48 pm

  12.  

    Sami…

    Aren’t you the one who comments on NowLebanon and constantly attacking M14.

    Here’s a sample of your brilliant comments there:
    “This writer is a ZIONIST, his real name is most likely Taylor Eipstein.Many change their names so what they say may be accepted.Visit this sight and respond: iamthewitness.com.It is a shame that Now Lebanon allowes zionists to poison our minds.”

    Posted by Jay | November 15, 2007, 7:20 pm

  13.  

    I find it funny that we’re only good at attacking the opposition and Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah and we ignore the fact that Israel is the worst aggressor in the Middle East and that it can attack Lebanon at any time.

    I DO NOT WANT HEZBOLLAH TO DISARM. Because Hezbollah is the only protection we really have against the Zionists. The purpose of Hezbollah is to defend its land and the people within its border. Disarmament is not possible at this time since the Israeli army is still within the borders aiming at the people and the land. Hezbollah can only be dissolved once the Lebanese army is strong enough to protect the land and the people. Only when there will be a constitutional Lebanese government (with a strong army) that will be able to protect us against the Israeli war machine and that will represent ALL THE LEBANESE equally, and only when Israel will stop occupying parts of our land and gives us back the Lebanese prisoners it illegaly kidnapped during its illegal occupation, then maybe we can think of disarming Hezbollah. But until then, there is no way that we will disarm the Lebanese resistance, an independent organization that NEVER used its weapons inside Leb against the Lebanese civilians, unlike other political groups and leaders in Lebanon, and that is there to defend its country and its people AGAINST ISRAEL. If there is no resistance, ISRAEL WILL BE OCCUPYING ALL OF SOUTH LEBANON AND EVEN BEIRUT. WE NEED THE RESISTANCE TO STOP ISRAEL FROM KILLING OUR PEOPLE AND COMMITTING WAR CRIMES AGAINST US.

    We need a government to understands this and not a government that is controlled by THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is only there to serve the Zionists’ interests.

    How come you never mention all of those important points in your posts?

    Posted by S | November 17, 2007, 10:26 pm

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