Comments on: Why The Lebanese Presidential Election Matters http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/ Blogging Lebanese politics, business and society since 2005 Wed, 23 May 2012 14:09:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: debtsettlement http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7703 debtsettlement Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:01:19 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7703 You are right in many cases. One thing you forgot to mention is that there are law firms that practice ebt settlement as well. So whats the difference for one a law firm can keep the collection agencies off of your back, two they are alot more reputable than your standard ?debt settlement company? they must compy with the bar association of their state. However you are right there is no such thing as clumping all of these debts together this is just not the case. But the creditors do speak much differently to a professional negotiator than they do with the average consumer and can usually get a very nice settlement <a href="http://mydebtmanagementonline.com" rel="nofollow">debt settlement lead</a> You are right in many cases. One thing you forgot to mention is that there are law firms that practice ebt settlement as well. So whats the difference for one a law firm can keep the collection agencies off of your back, two they are alot more reputable than your standard ?debt settlement company? they must compy with the bar association of their state. However you are right there is no such thing as clumping all of these debts together this is just not the case. But the creditors do speak much differently to a professional negotiator than they do with the average consumer and can usually get a very nice settlement
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]]> By: Visitor http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7702 Visitor Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:02:06 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7702 Jester, you have it exactly right; needed is Christian unity for both the Christians and Lebanon to move forward, and if Aoun retired and one of his more than capable lieutenants assumed the mantle of leader, the mandate his party received from the Christian voting districts in 2005 will find both expression and meaning. We need to turn the page, and retire the hold-over leaders from the civil war. We are stuck with Taef, which has institutionalised confessionlism and unless the Christians become a united poltical block, like the other religions/sects, they will have no voice, and will be a source of eternal instability in Lebanon (unless they disappear as a people from Lebanon which will be Lebanon's loss). Jester, you have it exactly right; needed is Christian unity for both the Christians and Lebanon to move forward, and if Aoun retired and one of his more than capable lieutenants assumed the mantle of leader, the mandate his party received from the Christian voting districts in 2005 will find both expression and meaning. We need to turn the page, and retire the hold-over leaders from the civil war.

We are stuck with Taef, which has institutionalised confessionlism and unless the Christians become a united poltical block, like the other religions/sects, they will have no voice, and will be a source of eternal instability in Lebanon (unless they disappear as a people from Lebanon which will be Lebanon’s loss).

]]> By: Sam http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7701 Sam Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:53:57 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7701 Il n'y a pas de fumée sans flamme. It is not about hatred, it is about criticism. Shia Lebanese should be loyal to Lebanon First and stop being puppet for Iran ambitions. Druze did the same mistakes with English and Soviet, they were wrong. Maronites did it with French and Israeli and they were wrong. Sunnni did it with Egyptians and Palestinians and they were wrong too. The main problem in Lebanon is Lebanese loyalty to foreigners! Otherwise, the annoying syrian neigbour could have been much better handeled. Enjoy Kibbé Nayé, but don't dream about Wilayat El Faqih too much, it will have an alcohol effect on you. Il n’y a pas de fumée sans flamme. It is not about hatred, it is about criticism. Shia Lebanese should be loyal to Lebanon First and stop being puppet for Iran ambitions.
Druze did the same mistakes with English and Soviet, they were wrong. Maronites did it with French and Israeli and they were wrong. Sunnni did it with Egyptians and Palestinians and they were wrong too.
The main problem in Lebanon is Lebanese loyalty to foreigners! Otherwise, the annoying syrian neigbour could have been much better handeled.
Enjoy Kibbé Nayé, but don’t dream about Wilayat El Faqih too much, it will have an alcohol effect on you.

]]> By: http://ibnbintjbeil.blogspot.com/ http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7700 http://ibnbintjbeil.blogspot.com/ Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:49:58 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7700 Sam, you spelled my name wrong, ando stated grave errors on every other line. wow, you are full of hate for a major segment of the country. a numbered list of generalizing accusations, interesting. can you please expand on this list? maybe with sublists? sharing is an interesting concept as well. i'll think about it and relay it to the powers that be. dey ar my cazin and we sit and drink argili and eat lahmi niyyi. it hard for us to undirstand you becaz we eat lahmi niyyi too mach. i guess you forgit about sharing for naw. too bad for you. Sam,

you spelled my name wrong, ando stated grave errors on every other line.

wow, you are full of hate for a major segment of the country. a numbered list of generalizing accusations, interesting. can you please expand on this list? maybe with sublists?

sharing is an interesting concept as well. i’ll think about it and relay it to the powers that be. dey ar my cazin and we sit and drink argili and eat lahmi niyyi. it hard for us to undirstand you becaz we eat lahmi niyyi too mach. i guess you forgit about sharing for naw. too bad for you.

]]> By: Traffic http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7699 Traffic Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:52:36 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7699 Opposition followers should understand that by obstructing the election of a new president they are to blame for all the problems that will follow. M14 will accomplish their civic duty and show up to every election session. The obstructionists will be those who will refuse to come. By the way, the absence of consensus is not proper grounds for not attending. Eventually the duty to elect a president will prevail even through a 50+1% election. Jester, Watch out when you say that Aoun "avoided a civil strife by moving in with Hezbollah". As this is interpreted as either a bogus claim or a complete indictment of HA's intentions in Leb. Opposition followers should understand that by obstructing the election of a new president they are to blame for all the problems that will follow. M14 will accomplish their civic duty and show up to every election session. The obstructionists will be those who will refuse to come. By the way, the absence of consensus is not proper grounds for not attending.
Eventually the duty to elect a president will prevail even through a 50+1% election.

Jester,
Watch out when you say that Aoun “avoided a civil strife by moving in with Hezbollah”. As this is interpreted as either a bogus claim or a complete indictment of HA’s intentions in Leb.

]]> By: Vox http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7698 Vox Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:27:42 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7698 The real catastrophe is if the Lebanese elect a Syrian or Iranian dog under the excuse of consensus, also know as terrorist blackmail. The real catastrophe is if the Lebanese elect a Syrian or Iranian dog under the excuse of consensus, also know as terrorist blackmail.

]]> By: Jester http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7697 Jester Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:32:36 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7697 It's Aoun on one side, against all Lebanese Christians put together. Not bad for the FPM. I think Aoun should retire, and his FPM should take over. It has a well founded movement, well educated followers, and the Lebanon's most intellectual among its peers (very Obvious at USJ, which is probably the only university which has fully support for one Lebanese movement). I think Michel Aoun will be remembered as a decent chap which also avoided a civil strife by moving in with Hezbollah, even though most of his followers despised him for it and realized later on that it was not all that bad of a move, but got the whole world which criticizes Hezbollah, criticizing him. Not an easy task he made, but prevented a much larger problem. Finally, I beileve the FPM shoudl restructure, bring out its outspoken charismatic leaders to the torch now and make a strong Christian Lebanese movement which represents as much as the Future Movement represents out of its community and Hezbollah represent out of its community. The sum of all us, makes Lebanon what it is. Diversity is the spice of life. It’s Aoun on one side, against all Lebanese Christians put together. Not bad for the FPM.

I think Aoun should retire, and his FPM should take over. It has a well founded movement, well educated followers, and the Lebanon’s most intellectual among its peers (very Obvious at USJ, which is probably the only university which has fully support for one Lebanese movement).

I think Michel Aoun will be remembered as a decent chap which also avoided a civil strife by moving in with Hezbollah, even though most of his followers despised him for it and realized later on that it was not all that bad of a move, but got the whole world which criticizes Hezbollah, criticizing him. Not an easy task he made, but prevented a much larger problem.

Finally, I beileve the FPM shoudl restructure, bring out its outspoken charismatic leaders to the torch now and make a strong Christian Lebanese movement which represents as much as the Future Movement represents out of its community and Hezbollah represent out of its community. The sum of all us, makes Lebanon what it is. Diversity is the spice of life.

]]> By: Sam http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7696 Sam Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:25:51 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7696 To Ibn Bent Jbeil Do you know how the rest of Lebanese started seeing people from the South after March the 8th 2005? I will tell you : when Lebanese (Maronites, Druze, Sunni, Orthodox, Protestant, Catholic and even Palestinian refugees and Syrian sunni share it with us) meet together how the feel and what they say : - Shia Lebanese are not Lebanese, they're persian willing to die for Iran. - Shia Lebanese are assassins, they participate or omit to stop assassination of other Lebanese! - Shia support American occupation and destruction of Iraq and defy amercians in Lebanon!!! - Shia hate Baath party in Irak because Saddam was sunni, while they love Baath' in Syria because Bashar is Alawi! - Shia Lebanese get money to reproduce at the same time they push other Lebanese to migrate by causing unneeded wars, and occupying downtown. - They want to inherit Maronites privileges alive and impose Wilayat El Faqih on the rest of Lebanon! - When Jibran, Eido, Pierre etc. dies they celebrate and distribute Baklawa. However during July 06 war Sunnni, Druze and Maronites from M14 received Shiaa in their homes for protection! - Shia are terribly unsupportable in public administration. They're remarkable for their skills screwing and cheating the government. - Shia in Lebanon became like Jewish in Palestine, buying lands in Mount Lebanon, Bikaa and Beirut with Iranian money to settle, reproduce and change demographics. - Shia clerics does money laundering by allowing dirty and blood money from Africa diamonds, wars and prostitution to be used to support Hizballa pretending that they have '' Mal Sharif''! All of that and not thinking of civil unrest? Druze were arrogant in the 18th and 19th century, same for Maronites in the 19th and the 20th century. They both learned lessons about being humble and sharing with others. Isn't time for Shiaa to learn the same lesson? To Ibn Bent Jbeil

Do you know how the rest of Lebanese started seeing people from the South after March the 8th 2005?
I will tell you : when Lebanese (Maronites, Druze, Sunni, Orthodox, Protestant, Catholic and even Palestinian refugees and Syrian sunni share it with us) meet together how the feel and what they say :

- Shia Lebanese are not Lebanese, they’re persian willing to die for Iran.
- Shia Lebanese are assassins, they participate or omit to stop assassination of other Lebanese!
- Shia support American occupation and destruction of Iraq and defy amercians in Lebanon!!!
- Shia hate Baath party in Irak because Saddam was sunni, while they love Baath’ in Syria because Bashar is Alawi!
- Shia Lebanese get money to reproduce at the same time they push other Lebanese to migrate by causing unneeded wars, and occupying downtown.
- They want to inherit Maronites privileges alive and impose Wilayat El Faqih on the rest of Lebanon!
- When Jibran, Eido, Pierre etc. dies they celebrate and distribute Baklawa. However during July 06 war Sunnni, Druze and Maronites from M14 received Shiaa in their homes for protection!
- Shia are terribly unsupportable in public administration. They’re remarkable for their skills screwing and cheating the government.
- Shia in Lebanon became like Jewish in Palestine, buying lands in Mount Lebanon, Bikaa and Beirut with Iranian money to settle, reproduce and change demographics.
- Shia clerics does money laundering by allowing dirty and blood money from Africa diamonds, wars and prostitution to be used to support Hizballa pretending that they have ” Mal Sharif”!

All of that and not thinking of civil unrest?

Druze were arrogant in the 18th and 19th century, same for Maronites in the 19th and the 20th century. They both learned lessons about being humble and sharing with others. Isn’t time for Shiaa to learn the same lesson?

]]> By: Anonymous http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7695 Anonymous Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:58:19 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7695 To support Sam's assertion that Aoun is a psychopath, check out this Youtube clip (only 35 seconds). Would you vote for this man as President of Lebanon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXxWZe5tOU&mode=related&search= There are many more clips...but remember this sick man would represent you and all of us if he won. Remember Hitler? To support Sam’s assertion that Aoun is a psychopath, check out this Youtube clip (only 35 seconds). Would you vote for this man as President of Lebanon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXxWZe5tOU&mode=related&search=

There are many more clips…but remember this sick man would represent you and all of us if he won. Remember Hitler?

]]> By: Ibn Bint Jbeil http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7694 Ibn Bint Jbeil Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:04:49 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/21/why-the-lebanese-presidential-elections-are-important/#comment-7694 i love how he says, along with all kinds of other twisted-tongue speech: "...a loose coalition of forces including the united states, the mainstream sunni arab regimes, and european states..." lovely language! beautiful conglomeration! mainstream sunni arab regimes? what the hell does that mean? what exactly is mainstream about them? what does the term imply? who does it implicate? what does it aim to hide? i love how pundits think they're magicians who can play so successfully with smoke and mirrors. classic juggling! i love how he says, along with all kinds of other twisted-tongue speech: “…a loose coalition of forces including the united states, the mainstream sunni arab regimes, and european states…”

lovely language! beautiful conglomeration!

mainstream sunni arab regimes? what the hell does that mean? what exactly is mainstream about them? what does the term imply? who does it implicate? what does it aim to hide?

i love how pundits think they’re magicians who can play so successfully with smoke and mirrors. classic juggling!

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