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		<title>By: Amnesty: Lebanon Discriminating Against Palestinians &#124; The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-21167</link>
		<dc:creator>Amnesty: Lebanon Discriminating Against Palestinians &#124; The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Amnesty: Lebanon Discriminating Against Palestinians  &#160;   Lebanon&#8217;s troubles with international watchdogs just don&#8217;t seem to end. After the incident with Human Rights Watch, now Amnesty International is slapping Lebanon on the wrist. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Amnesty: Lebanon Discriminating Against Palestinians  &nbsp;   Lebanon&#8217;s troubles with international watchdogs just don&#8217;t seem to end. After the incident with Human Rights Watch, now Amnesty International is slapping Lebanon on the wrist. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-17327</link>
		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“although it kinda doesn’t make sense to blame Hezbollah for their “dumb”non-guided missiles”&lt;/i&gt;

Does it mean Israel should forgo use of precision-guided weapons in favor of &quot;dumb&quot; weapons to satisfy HWR watch requirements?
I am sure they are technically capable of laying more than one carpet of those dummies. Daisy-cutters, anyone? What a load of ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“although it kinda doesn’t make sense to blame Hezbollah for their “dumb”non-guided missiles”</i></p>
<p>Does it mean Israel should forgo use of precision-guided weapons in favor of &#8220;dumb&#8221; weapons to satisfy HWR watch requirements?<br />
I am sure they are technically capable of laying more than one carpet of those dummies. Daisy-cutters, anyone? What a load of &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-17322</link>
		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali @ 15

&lt;i&gt;&quot;To the Zionist,
The phrase “Soon enough we will have to go nuclear”, that is not constructive. Such kind of talk gives right to crazy leaders in Iran to go nuclear as well. With such phrases you are not helping in stopping the spread of nuclear weapons in the region, and seriously who wants that?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You are correct assuming Ahmadnejad reads this blog and assuming his desire to go nuclear rests solely on ability of Israel go nuclear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali @ 15</p>
<p><i>&#8220;To the Zionist,<br />
The phrase “Soon enough we will have to go nuclear”, that is not constructive. Such kind of talk gives right to crazy leaders in Iran to go nuclear as well. With such phrases you are not helping in stopping the spread of nuclear weapons in the region, and seriously who wants that?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You are correct assuming Ahmadnejad reads this blog and assuming his desire to go nuclear rests solely on ability of Israel go nuclear.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Cook</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-17316</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reeks of a semantics arguement.  Did Hizb hide amongst the populace.  Sure.  Did they hold people at gun point and force them to get hit by rockets... probably not.  Israel&#039;s point remains:  Fighting opposing forces that use guerilla and/or insurgent tactics cause much higher civilian casualties.  The fact that his appears to be News to HRW shouldn&#039;t surprise anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reeks of a semantics arguement.  Did Hizb hide amongst the populace.  Sure.  Did they hold people at gun point and force them to get hit by rockets&#8230; probably not.  Israel&#8217;s point remains:  Fighting opposing forces that use guerilla and/or insurgent tactics cause much higher civilian casualties.  The fact that his appears to be News to HRW shouldn&#8217;t surprise anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Hazbani</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-17093</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazbani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprise, As an Israeli saying some thing not 100% negative about the Hizb.
Ball bearings are put in missiles since the 17-18th century, perhaps before there were ball bearings. Such ball bearings are standard ammo. in Nato and Russia. They are designed against infantry and other soft targets. The Hizb. did not put the metal balls in the war heads. They bought or got the missiles that were designed militarily and used them against civilians.
It has been suggested that Israel will learn from the Hizb. and start manufacturing and using such missles with nominal bulls eye +/- 100 meters or even 300m. Israel can produce thusands of these for the price of one wing of F 16. Is it legal? is war legal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprise, As an Israeli saying some thing not 100% negative about the Hizb.<br />
Ball bearings are put in missiles since the 17-18th century, perhaps before there were ball bearings. Such ball bearings are standard ammo. in Nato and Russia. They are designed against infantry and other soft targets. The Hizb. did not put the metal balls in the war heads. They bought or got the missiles that were designed militarily and used them against civilians.<br />
It has been suggested that Israel will learn from the Hizb. and start manufacturing and using such missles with nominal bulls eye +/- 100 meters or even 300m. Israel can produce thusands of these for the price of one wing of F 16. Is it legal? is war legal?</p>
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		<title>By: Akiva M.</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-17043</link>
		<dc:creator>Akiva M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 09:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;although it kinda doesn’t make sense to blame Hezbollah for their “dumb”non-guided missiles&quot;

That argument would make more sense had Hezbollah:

1) Not announced that they were intentionally targeting Israeli cities with no military value whatsoever; or

2) Not packed their missile warheads with ball bearings, which are useless against military targets (even individual soldiers) but perfectly tailored to maximize the damage to unprotected civilian flesh and unarmored civilian property.

Anyone who thinks Hezbollah had any interest at all in avoiding or minimizing civilian casualties needs their heads examined</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;although it kinda doesn’t make sense to blame Hezbollah for their “dumb”non-guided missiles&#8221;</p>
<p>That argument would make more sense had Hezbollah:</p>
<p>1) Not announced that they were intentionally targeting Israeli cities with no military value whatsoever; or</p>
<p>2) Not packed their missile warheads with ball bearings, which are useless against military targets (even individual soldiers) but perfectly tailored to maximize the damage to unprotected civilian flesh and unarmored civilian property.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks Hezbollah had any interest at all in avoiding or minimizing civilian casualties needs their heads examined</p>
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		<title>By: Akiva M.</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-17041</link>
		<dc:creator>Akiva M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 09:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hezbollah should take all feasible measures to ensure that Hezbollah forces do not place civilians or UN personnel at unnecessary risk by deploying in, firing from or storing weapons in populated areas. The Lebanese government should investigate these practices. (Human Rights Watch’s report on Hezbollah’s deliberate and indiscriminate rocket attacks on civilian areas of Israel also calls for the Lebanese government to investigate those practices: http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/08/30/lebano16740.htm).&quot;

I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath on this one.

Or any of the others, really, though I hope someone in Israel is paying attention to this:

· Israel should revise its military policies that effectively treat all persons remaining in an area following evacuation warnings as combatants, so that in the future it targets only people or structures that constitute valid military objectives under the laws of war. Israel’s Winograd Commission, in particular, should investigate this issue.

Even if they think it will give Hezbollah a tactical advantage, as the July war proved the media disadvantage of being wrong and its impact on future action is probably worse than the tactical disadvantage of requiring more intel that &quot;we said leave&quot;.

Not to mention the moral implications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hezbollah should take all feasible measures to ensure that Hezbollah forces do not place civilians or UN personnel at unnecessary risk by deploying in, firing from or storing weapons in populated areas. The Lebanese government should investigate these practices. (Human Rights Watch’s report on Hezbollah’s deliberate and indiscriminate rocket attacks on civilian areas of Israel also calls for the Lebanese government to investigate those practices: <a href="http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/08/30/lebano16740.htm)." rel="nofollow">http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/08/30/lebano16740.htm).</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath on this one.</p>
<p>Or any of the others, really, though I hope someone in Israel is paying attention to this:</p>
<p>· Israel should revise its military policies that effectively treat all persons remaining in an area following evacuation warnings as combatants, so that in the future it targets only people or structures that constitute valid military objectives under the laws of war. Israel’s Winograd Commission, in particular, should investigate this issue.</p>
<p>Even if they think it will give Hezbollah a tactical advantage, as the July war proved the media disadvantage of being wrong and its impact on future action is probably worse than the tactical disadvantage of requiring more intel that &#8220;we said leave&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not to mention the moral implications.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-17015</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the Zionist,
 The phrase &quot;Soon enough we will have to go nuclear&quot;, that is not constructive. Such kind of talk gives right to crazy leaders in Iran to go nuclear as well. With such phrases you are not helping in stopping the spread of nuclear weapons in the region, and seriously who wants that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the Zionist,<br />
 The phrase &#8220;Soon enough we will have to go nuclear&#8221;, that is not constructive. Such kind of talk gives right to crazy leaders in Iran to go nuclear as well. With such phrases you are not helping in stopping the spread of nuclear weapons in the region, and seriously who wants that?</p>
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		<title>By: The Zionist</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-17002</link>
		<dc:creator>The Zionist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 23:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw mustapha...I see the question nasrallah ad&#039;s on your site..

takes alot of guts - I respect that - you are making the fate of your nation (rather than accepting it by default)

be well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw mustapha&#8230;I see the question nasrallah ad&#8217;s on your site..</p>
<p>takes alot of guts &#8211; I respect that &#8211; you are making the fate of your nation (rather than accepting it by default)</p>
<p>be well</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-16925</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always curious how this kind of research is conducted.

It&#039;s explained here:

&quot;Reproduced below is a list of 97 incidents involving civilian casualties and civilian
infrastructure that we have investigated in Lebanon. The information listed below,
based on our field investigation of the sites and witness testimonies, includes the
date and time of the strike, the method of attack, the village where the attack took
place, and the death toll. Because place names often vary, our researchers also took
the GPS coordinates of individual strikes, which should allow the IDF to coordinate
this information with its strike logs and establish the specific military target attacked.&quot;

97 incidents... that&#039;s a lousy number if you would ask me.
Testimonies? Since when in Hezbollah reigned south testimonies are independent? 

Reports such as these from human right organisations smell when research is done in messed up countries. 

Unfortunately usually messed up countries have to deal with human rights organisations.

So I am not going to blame HRW for doing their work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always curious how this kind of research is conducted.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s explained here:</p>
<p>&#8220;Reproduced below is a list of 97 incidents involving civilian casualties and civilian<br />
infrastructure that we have investigated in Lebanon. The information listed below,<br />
based on our field investigation of the sites and witness testimonies, includes the<br />
date and time of the strike, the method of attack, the village where the attack took<br />
place, and the death toll. Because place names often vary, our researchers also took<br />
the GPS coordinates of individual strikes, which should allow the IDF to coordinate<br />
this information with its strike logs and establish the specific military target attacked.&#8221;</p>
<p>97 incidents&#8230; that&#8217;s a lousy number if you would ask me.<br />
Testimonies? Since when in Hezbollah reigned south testimonies are independent? </p>
<p>Reports such as these from human right organisations smell when research is done in messed up countries. </p>
<p>Unfortunately usually messed up countries have to deal with human rights organisations.</p>
<p>So I am not going to blame HRW for doing their work :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Vilbel</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-16832</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Vilbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Zionist, your comment there was a bit over the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Zionist, your comment there was a bit over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: The Zionist</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-16823</link>
		<dc:creator>The Zionist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to appologise to mustapha - I love your blog - and I dont mean to lump all arabs together in one catagory.

keep on doing what you&#039;re doing mustapha  - you prove that maybe the good guys will win</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to appologise to mustapha &#8211; I love your blog &#8211; and I dont mean to lump all arabs together in one catagory.</p>
<p>keep on doing what you&#8217;re doing mustapha  &#8211; you prove that maybe the good guys will win</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Lebanon: HRW Blames Israel for Lebanese Civilian Casualties</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-16809</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Lebanon: HRW Blames Israel for Lebanese Civilian Casualties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In its latest report, the Human Rights Watch made the point that Hezbullah did not use civilians as human shields while fighting against Israel in the war during summer 2006. The report rebukes Israel for the unjustified bombing of civilian areas leading to more than 1,000 civilian deaths. Beirut Spring, Remarkz and Les Politiques reflect on this report.   Share This [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In its latest report, the Human Rights Watch made the point that Hezbullah did not use civilians as human shields while fighting against Israel in the war during summer 2006. The report rebukes Israel for the unjustified bombing of civilian areas leading to more than 1,000 civilian deaths. Beirut Spring, Remarkz and Les Politiques reflect on this report.   Share This [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ralf</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-16783</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Zionist, Israel could have done 100 times worse at least, and if hezboz had Israels power they would have done 1 million time worse. 
I think that Ramzi prooved on the contrary that Siniora did the right thing, who said that he wants to sue Israel for war crimes? Which tribunal is going to find Israel guilty of targeted attacks and hezboz innocent of blind attacks. 
Tarek: &quot;it kinda doesn’t make sense to blame Hezbollah for their “dumb”non-guided missiles…&quot; I wonder if what you are saying makes any sense. By saying that you mean i can go out to my balcony and launch a dumb missile, and since its not guided, than i am not responsible of its damages??? Thats PLAIN DUMB!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Zionist, Israel could have done 100 times worse at least, and if hezboz had Israels power they would have done 1 million time worse.<br />
I think that Ramzi prooved on the contrary that Siniora did the right thing, who said that he wants to sue Israel for war crimes? Which tribunal is going to find Israel guilty of targeted attacks and hezboz innocent of blind attacks.<br />
Tarek: &#8220;it kinda doesn’t make sense to blame Hezbollah for their “dumb”non-guided missiles…&#8221; I wonder if what you are saying makes any sense. By saying that you mean i can go out to my balcony and launch a dumb missile, and since its not guided, than i am not responsible of its damages??? Thats PLAIN DUMB!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Zionist</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/09/06/why-they-died/comment-page-1/#comment-16767</link>
		<dc:creator>The Zionist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War crimes ?

Its funny - not one word from the Arab world when the serbians lined up muslims by the 1000&#039;s and gunned them down in cold blood. No Jihad, No protest, No Nothing. 

The Americans had to intervene - save muslim lives and now they are the &quot;evil infidels&quot;

Let me make it very simple for the Arab world to understand Israels position..

We know full well that you wont leave her alone until she is dead. Only the extermination of the Jewish people will make you happy. 

Soon enough we will have to go nuclear - because you simply wont stop trying to kill her, when all she wants is to be welcomed home by her greater semitic family and be allowed her rightful space on the planet

only her blood and death will satisfy you

so when 1000 die - when she could have easily killed 100,000 - this is not a crime - its a gesture saying that she has no wish to harm you...please just once and for all leave her alone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War crimes ?</p>
<p>Its funny &#8211; not one word from the Arab world when the serbians lined up muslims by the 1000&#8217;s and gunned them down in cold blood. No Jihad, No protest, No Nothing. </p>
<p>The Americans had to intervene &#8211; save muslim lives and now they are the &#8220;evil infidels&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me make it very simple for the Arab world to understand Israels position..</p>
<p>We know full well that you wont leave her alone until she is dead. Only the extermination of the Jewish people will make you happy. </p>
<p>Soon enough we will have to go nuclear &#8211; because you simply wont stop trying to kill her, when all she wants is to be welcomed home by her greater semitic family and be allowed her rightful space on the planet</p>
<p>only her blood and death will satisfy you</p>
<p>so when 1000 die &#8211; when she could have easily killed 100,000 &#8211; this is not a crime &#8211; its a gesture saying that she has no wish to harm you&#8230;please just once and for all leave her alone</p>
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