Comments on: The Problem With Big Carrots http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/ Blogging Lebanon since 2005 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:11:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sarkozy’s Empty Threats? | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7316 Sarkozy’s Empty Threats? | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:22:26 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7316 [...] • In March, I wrote a post endorsing Mr. Sarkozy for the French presidency • But I later noticed that Sarkozy’s France is misguided on Syria • Recently, I was startled at how naive Mr. Kouchner, the French Foreign Minister, seems to be on Lebanon • I had noted that big carrots, like those France are offering, are not what Syria needed. [...] [...] • In March, I wrote a post endorsing Mr. Sarkozy for the French presidency • But I later noticed that Sarkozy’s France is misguided on Syria • Recently, I was startled at how naive Mr. Kouchner, the French Foreign Minister, seems to be on Lebanon • I had noted that big carrots, like those France are offering, are not what Syria needed. [...]

]]> By: Kouchner Makes Startling Discovery: Lebanon Is A Treacherous Place | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7315 Kouchner Makes Startling Discovery: Lebanon Is A Treacherous Place | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:18:53 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7315 [...] • Last August, I argued against France’s promise of a “spectacular opening gesture” towards Syria • A few days later I realized that France and the US were beginning to differ in diagnosing the Lebanese situation • In March, I wrote a post endorsing Nicolas Sarkozy for the French presidency. [...] [...] • Last August, I argued against France’s promise of a “spectacular opening gesture” towards Syria • A few days later I realized that France and the US were beginning to differ in diagnosing the Lebanese situation • In March, I wrote a post endorsing Nicolas Sarkozy for the French presidency. [...]

]]> By: Afif http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7314 Afif Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:56:23 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7314 Often I think western countries purposefully appease Syria.. could that be to make them feel free to indulge in bigger crimes they'll later follow them with..? or to indirectly make adjustments on the Lebanese political landscape.. thus messing-up the situation even more.. Often I think western countries purposefully appease Syria..
could that be to make them feel free to indulge in bigger crimes they’ll later follow them with..? or to indirectly make adjustments on the Lebanese political landscape.. thus messing-up the situation even more..

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7313 Bad Vilbel Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:04:01 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7313 Just like countless other carrots that have been dangled to Assad, this one will go nowhere. The Syrian regime is EXISTENTIALLY incapable of leaving Lebanon alone. It amazes me that people STILL don't get that. Without a constant state of conflict with Israel, and without a stranglehold on Lebanon, the Assad regime will quickly wither and die. So therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE for Assad to choose any of these carrots, even if he wanted to. It's really that simple. Just like countless other carrots that have been dangled to Assad, this one will go nowhere.

The Syrian regime is EXISTENTIALLY incapable of leaving Lebanon alone. It amazes me that people STILL don’t get that. Without a constant state of conflict with Israel, and without a stranglehold on Lebanon, the Assad regime will quickly wither and die. So therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE for Assad to choose any of these carrots, even if he wanted to. It’s really that simple.

]]> By: The Zionist http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7312 The Zionist Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:54:21 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7312 would syria act the way it does if it didnt feel untouchable ? France will indeed come with a fat weapons package More Appeasement... More weapons everywhere - and from where ? Who would be happy if we (the middle east) went to war with eachother The West ? Russia? Iran? The Jihadis ? All of the above ? would syria act the way it does if it didnt feel untouchable ?

France will indeed come with a fat weapons package

More Appeasement…

More weapons everywhere – and from where ?

Who would be happy if we (the middle east) went to war with eachother

The West ? Russia? Iran? The Jihadis ?

All of the above ?

]]> By: Ghassan http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7311 Ghassan Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:05:14 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7311 Sorry Saud-ick! Letting the Harriri trial "slide" means we have no dignity and we don't value the people who worked for an independent, sovereign Lebanon! Also, the Syrians will not hesitate to kill anyone who will try to build an independent, sovereign Lebanon! If you are not punished for your act, you will do it again!!! NOPE, IT WILL NOT SLIDE!!! Sorry Saud-ick! Letting the Harriri trial “slide” means we have no dignity and we don’t value the people who worked for an independent, sovereign Lebanon! Also, the Syrians will not hesitate to kill anyone who will try to build an independent, sovereign Lebanon! If you are not punished for your act, you will do it again!!! NOPE, IT WILL NOT SLIDE!!!

]]> By: Saud-ick http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7310 Saud-ick Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:12:31 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7310 Border Demarcation, UN Troops on the boarders, Exchange of Embassies, Complete disengagement from Lebanon, and I'm willing to consider letting them slide on the Hariri trial. Of course no disrespect to our brethren in the community, but "if" the above is gained, naturally Lebanon (Hariri) wins. Border Demarcation, UN Troops on the boarders, Exchange of Embassies, Complete disengagement from Lebanon, and I’m willing to consider letting them slide on the Hariri trial.
Of course no disrespect to our brethren in the community, but “if” the above is gained, naturally Lebanon (Hariri) wins.

]]> By: Ghassan http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7309 Ghassan Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:25:40 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7309 No Fear is right! Syria wants the tribunal to disappear. That is its first goal (cake) and everything else is just icing on the cake! The other issue is that Syria does not reciprocate nice things with nice things! Remember the Arabic poem: "If you were generous to a good person, you almost own him. But if you were generous to a bad guy, he will rebel." Help me guys with the translation!!! No Fear is right! Syria wants the tribunal to disappear. That is its first goal (cake) and everything else is just icing on the cake!

The other issue is that Syria does not reciprocate nice things with nice things! Remember the Arabic poem: “If you were generous to a good person, you almost own him. But if you were generous to a bad guy, he will rebel.” Help me guys with the translation!!!

]]> By: No Fear http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7308 No Fear Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:11:05 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7308 The biggest difference between Lybia and Syria is that Syria is involved deeply in Hariri assassination and this is the main point. If France is to negociate with the Syrian the Hariri international tribunal is the key anything else will not do the work. It will just trigger more violence to show more influence. The biggest difference between Lybia and Syria is that Syria is involved deeply in Hariri assassination and this is the main point. If France is to negociate with the Syrian the Hariri international tribunal is the key anything else will not do the work. It will just trigger more violence to show more influence.

]]> By: Don Cox http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7307 Don Cox Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:35:07 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/27/the-problem-with-big-carrots/#comment-7307 Their aim is, and will continue to be, a Greater Syria. There is probably a map somewhere, but this certainly includes the Lebanon, Israel, Jordan and most of Iraq. Their aim is, and will continue to be, a Greater Syria. There is probably a map somewhere, but this certainly includes the Lebanon, Israel, Jordan and most of Iraq.

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