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		<title>By: rybrn</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/17/march-8s-aoun-problem/#comment-7209</link>
		<dc:creator>rybrn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lebanon Moving Towards &#8220;Vacuum Management&#8221; &#124; The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/17/march-8s-aoun-problem/#comment-7208</link>
		<dc:creator>Lebanon Moving Towards &#8220;Vacuum Management&#8221; &#124; The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] • I&#8217;ve been writing about Aoun&#8217;s &#8220;right&#8221; for the presidency for some time. In September 2005, I argued that since the Shiaas chose Amal for the Speaker&#8217;s position (instead of the more popular Hezbollah), it is unfair to say that the most popular politician in a sect is entitled to the highest post • In October 2006, I highlighted a comment which gives an alternative theory on why Aoun is entitled to the presidency • Last March, I wrote about the problems the opposition are having with Aoun. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] • I&#8217;ve been writing about Aoun&#8217;s &#8220;right&#8221; for the presidency for some time. In September 2005, I argued that since the Shiaas chose Amal for the Speaker&#8217;s position (instead of the more popular Hezbollah), it is unfair to say that the most popular politician in a sect is entitled to the highest post • In October 2006, I highlighted a comment which gives an alternative theory on why Aoun is entitled to the presidency • Last March, I wrote about the problems the opposition are having with Aoun. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: my-za'im-is-the-best</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/17/march-8s-aoun-problem/#comment-7207</link>
		<dc:creator>my-za'im-is-the-best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramzi, you forgot an important rule!

2.5 - It must be somebody else fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramzi, you forgot an important rule!</p>
<p>2.5 &#8211; It must be somebody else fault.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/17/march-8s-aoun-problem/#comment-7206</link>
		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply.
I still finf it hard to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply.<br />
I still finf it hard to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramzi S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramzi S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leo,

I agree. It does appear strange. And when I first started following Lebanese politics I was also flabbergasted at why leaders could change positions, have contrary positions, dismiss facts etc. and still not lose popular support.

The problem is that you are framing things based on the logic of Western politics and this is Lebanon. So.

Here is an easy to use chart. This the way the average brain in Lebanon processes new information.

1- The Zaame (leader) is always right
2- Conspiracy theories make all inconsistencies consistent
3- Facts and logic

If you note, level 3 is never reached because there is always a Zaame statement or conspiracy theory out there that will nullify it.

I hope this helped :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leo,</p>
<p>I agree. It does appear strange. And when I first started following Lebanese politics I was also flabbergasted at why leaders could change positions, have contrary positions, dismiss facts etc. and still not lose popular support.</p>
<p>The problem is that you are framing things based on the logic of Western politics and this is Lebanon. So.</p>
<p>Here is an easy to use chart. This the way the average brain in Lebanon processes new information.</p>
<p>1- The Zaame (leader) is always right<br />
2- Conspiracy theories make all inconsistencies consistent<br />
3- Facts and logic</p>
<p>If you note, level 3 is never reached because there is always a Zaame statement or conspiracy theory out there that will nullify it.</p>
<p>I hope this helped <img src='http://beirutspring.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Leb Christian</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/17/march-8s-aoun-problem/#comment-7204</link>
		<dc:creator>Leb Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leo, many members of his party left. My father being one of them. They&#039;d like you to think that they are stronger then ever. But the simple fact is that Aoun&#039;s &quot;MOU&quot; with Hezballah did not go well with his base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leo, many members of his party left. My father being one of them. They&#8217;d like you to think that they are stronger then ever. But the simple fact is that Aoun&#8217;s &#8220;MOU&#8221; with Hezballah did not go well with his base.</p>
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		<title>By: Leb Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leb Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Fares for president!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Fares for president!</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading all the previous comments, I have a question: if Aoun is so obviously only after one goal, why is he still so popular and why does he still have a large party following? I have not seen members of his party leave. And he still commands a large following with the population. Is there a reason for that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading all the previous comments, I have a question: if Aoun is so obviously only after one goal, why is he still so popular and why does he still have a large party following? I have not seen members of his party leave. And he still commands a large following with the population. Is there a reason for that?</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;I believe Michel Aoun’s greatest move would be to reassess his long-term political objectives, and the future of the country if a consensus candidate was elected.&quot;&quot;

First - one would have to believe that Aoun has &quot;long term objectives&quot; -- his objectives have always been for him and at his age, they can be nothing but short term.
The FPM movement was and is just a vehicle for his goal of the chair.

One of the interesting things I&#039;ve noticed is that the &quot;warlord&quot; Geagea fully understands about being a &quot;Kingmaker&quot;.  Aoun had many chances to be a &quot;hero&quot; and he let them all go .. It is doubtful he will change now.
It was clear on Jan 23 that this &quot;opposition&quot; was a failure and he lost his biggest chance right then. He could have pulled out and he might even have been able to talk his way into the chair with enough mea culpas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;I believe Michel Aoun’s greatest move would be to reassess his long-term political objectives, and the future of the country if a consensus candidate was elected.&#8221;"</p>
<p>First &#8211; one would have to believe that Aoun has &#8220;long term objectives&#8221; &#8212; his objectives have always been for him and at his age, they can be nothing but short term.<br />
The FPM movement was and is just a vehicle for his goal of the chair.</p>
<p>One of the interesting things I&#8217;ve noticed is that the &#8220;warlord&#8221; Geagea fully understands about being a &#8220;Kingmaker&#8221;.  Aoun had many chances to be a &#8220;hero&#8221; and he let them all go .. It is doubtful he will change now.<br />
It was clear on Jan 23 that this &#8220;opposition&#8221; was a failure and he lost his biggest chance right then. He could have pulled out and he might even have been able to talk his way into the chair with enough mea culpas.</p>
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		<title>By: Shunkleash</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/17/march-8s-aoun-problem/#comment-7200</link>
		<dc:creator>Shunkleash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Mustapha I would desribe Nasrallah as telling everyone....that THIS is how big my anus is...and michy can fit straight through.  Yalla!

Ayesh Lubnan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Mustapha I would desribe Nasrallah as telling everyone&#8230;.that THIS is how big my anus is&#8230;and michy can fit straight through.  Yalla!</p>
<p>Ayesh Lubnan!</p>
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