Comments on: On Michel Suleiman http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/ Blogging Lebanon since 2005 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:42:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Opening Up To Michel Sleiman | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7170 Opening Up To Michel Sleiman | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:20:01 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7170 [...] • Back in August, I argued precisely for what Mr. Jumblat is doing today • I then Called Mr. Suleiman the inevitable candidate • I also shared an anecdote about him that a reader posted • In September I pinpointed the one word Mr. Suleiman likes to be associated with. [...] [...] • Back in August, I argued precisely for what Mr. Jumblat is doing today • I then Called Mr. Suleiman the inevitable candidate • I also shared an anecdote about him that a reader posted • In September I pinpointed the one word Mr. Suleiman likes to be associated with. [...]

]]> By: Ace http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7169 Ace Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:00:18 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7169 I'd like to remind everyone that Suleiman has been in charge of the Army for 9 years. This is the same Army that had to beg for helmets, flak jackets and bullets on the second day of the camp battle. This needs explaining. Suleiman was imposed by Syria in the beginning, and he was left in place by the current Government, but he did not improve the Army any in the last 2 years ... why is that? I’d like to remind everyone that Suleiman has been in charge of the Army for 9 years. This is the same Army that had to beg for helmets, flak jackets and bullets on the second day of the camp battle.
This needs explaining. Suleiman was imposed by Syria in the beginning, and he was left in place by the current Government, but he did not improve the Army any in the last 2 years … why is that?

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7168 Bad Vilbel Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:19:26 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7168 Sorry Sam, Those are not valid qualifications. Besides, how do you know his #1 priority is Lebanon? How do you know he won't take orders from anywhere else? Your word against mine? Sorry Sam,

Those are not valid qualifications.

Besides, how do you know his #1 priority is Lebanon? How do you know he won’t take orders from anywhere else? Your word against mine?

]]> By: Sam http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7167 Sam Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:37:54 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7167 Michel Sleiman is qualified to become President because of his past actions towars the criticial situation in Lebanon : - Wisdom dealing with the Cedar Revolution on March 14th 2005. - His presence at Walid Ido's funeral with Hariri. - Reaction towards Syrian trash in Naher El Bared. While being diplomatic of not pointing Syria is a question to be discussed. - Condemning Israel wars which is important point for the Lebanese Shiaa. In other words, Sleiman has proven to be wise, patriotic and he's PURE 100% LEBANSE. He puts Lebanon as his #1 Priority: taking ditance from Syria, Iran, and the West at the same time. Which is the opposite to March 8th and their ideological link to Qum and Tehran. And it is diffrent from March 14th,where they're giving Great Sacrifices but unable to rely on real groud force to protect their life and assure security. Therefore Sleiman could help March 14th by his moderation and with respect to the Rule of Law. Michel Sleiman is qualified to become President because of his past actions towars the criticial situation in Lebanon :
- Wisdom dealing with the Cedar Revolution on March 14th 2005.
- His presence at Walid Ido’s funeral with Hariri.
- Reaction towards Syrian trash in Naher El Bared. While being diplomatic of not pointing Syria is a question to be discussed.
- Condemning Israel wars which is important point for the Lebanese Shiaa.

In other words, Sleiman has proven to be wise, patriotic and he’s PURE 100% LEBANSE. He puts Lebanon as his #1 Priority: taking ditance from Syria, Iran, and the West at the same time.
Which is the opposite to March 8th and their ideological link to Qum and Tehran. And it is diffrent from March 14th,where they’re giving Great Sacrifices but unable to rely on real groud force to protect their life and assure security. Therefore Sleiman could help March 14th by his moderation and with respect to the Rule of Law.

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7166 Bad Vilbel Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:27:30 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7166 ralf, Let me add that if you've followed my posts here and on my own blog for any time, you'd know that i COMPLETELY agree with you about how undemocratic it is to have the "consensus" candidate. I was ranting and raving about that very point around the time of the Metn elections. I never understood how these idiots could use the word "democracy" while at the same time trying to take the choice out of the people's hands, by imposing "consensus candidates" that run unopposed, because all the leaders (with no input from the people) agree on them. Removing the choice from the people's hands leads to a lack of accountability. As long as leaders keep picking each other for posts (amongst each others), there is absolutely no way for us to hold them accountable. So yeah, I agree, this whole system is undemocratic and needs to go. And as you said WE need to discuss Taef and a new constitution. Emphasis on WE, the Lebanese, the people. Revolution are born from within, and from the populace. I think you're under the impression that an imposed military ruler is some sort of revolution. It isn't. Not when this name is imposed from outside. ralf,
Let me add that if you’ve followed my posts here and on my own blog for any time, you’d know that i COMPLETELY agree with you about how undemocratic it is to have the “consensus” candidate. I was ranting and raving about that very point around the time of the Metn elections.
I never understood how these idiots could use the word “democracy” while at the same time trying to take the choice out of the people’s hands, by imposing “consensus candidates” that run unopposed, because all the leaders (with no input from the people) agree on them.

Removing the choice from the people’s hands leads to a lack of accountability. As long as leaders keep picking each other for posts (amongst each others), there is absolutely no way for us to hold them accountable.

So yeah, I agree, this whole system is undemocratic and needs to go. And as you said WE need to discuss Taef and a new constitution. Emphasis on WE, the Lebanese, the people. Revolution are born from within, and from the populace.
I think you’re under the impression that an imposed military ruler is some sort of revolution. It isn’t. Not when this name is imposed from outside.

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7165 Bad Vilbel Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:22:46 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7165 Ralf, I agree with you that our constitution sucks. I agree with you that Taef is a dictat. I agree with you the whole thing needs revising. But you seem to be suggesting that a military coup or a revolution is the answer. If this revolution was coming from the Lebanese people, then I might be on board with you. But when said coup is orchestrated in DAMASCUS, it smells like just another diktat. You wanna replace one diktat with another? What good is that? Ralf,

I agree with you that our constitution sucks. I agree with you that Taef is a dictat.
I agree with you the whole thing needs revising.

But you seem to be suggesting that a military coup or a revolution is the answer. If this revolution was coming from the Lebanese people, then I might be on board with you. But when said coup is orchestrated in DAMASCUS, it smells like just another diktat. You wanna replace one diktat with another? What good is that?

]]> By: Vox http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7164 Vox Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:07:48 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7164 They used to say similar stuff about Lahoud. I wasn't fooled then, and I am not fooled now. They used to say similar stuff about Lahoud. I wasn’t fooled then, and I am not fooled now.

]]> By: Ralf http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7163 Ralf Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:46:05 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7163 Cheers BV! For the record my name is not ralf Sleiman, i'm not defending my father here. You answered the question of BSpring in your comments, but the others went on cursing Sleiman while they follow Aoun, Geagea, Jumblat, Nabih and all the other douchebags. And that truly drove me nuts. you right, i'd better go back to my work and forget that whole siliness that never got us anywhere. One Almaza from me to you ;-) Cheers BV!
For the record my name is not ralf Sleiman, i’m not defending my father here. You answered the question of BSpring in your comments, but the others went on cursing Sleiman while they follow Aoun, Geagea, Jumblat, Nabih and all the other douchebags. And that truly drove me nuts. you right, i’d better go back to my work and forget that whole siliness that never got us anywhere.
One Almaza from me to you ;-)

]]> By: Ralf http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7162 Ralf Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:35:15 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7162 Ya Nadim, where do you see democracy in Lebanon? Ya Bad Vilbel where do you see a constitution in Lebanon? Those 2 words and many others does not exist in our country. You want to start something, lets not start it on wrong bases. Taef is our Diktat! "They" wrote "our" constitution when the country was 15 parts or more. Was there a referendum on the Taef? No! Was there a newly elected parliament , a government when Taef was written? NO!!! If we want to build things from scratch than it is more than time for a revolution or a military coup. This is how real changes begin. When the past is erased and a new present is born. I am a lebanese and I don't see the logic in our constitution naming 3 heads for the state, a president, PM and a Speaker. I don't understand why all must agree on the president and on the government member and the Speaker (That is in the constitution ya BV and it is anti-democratic by excellence)thats why i propose again, lets discuss the Taef constitution and we will all see that it holds only the name constitution but as a book of laws and rights its CRAP, and it must not be respected for the sake of teh future of our country. Ya Nadim, where do you see democracy in Lebanon? Ya Bad Vilbel where do you see a constitution in Lebanon?
Those 2 words and many others does not exist in our country.
You want to start something, lets not start it on wrong bases.
Taef is our Diktat! “They” wrote “our” constitution when the country was 15 parts or more. Was there a referendum on the Taef? No! Was there a newly elected parliament , a government when Taef was written? NO!!!
If we want to build things from scratch than it is more than time for a revolution or a military coup. This is how real changes begin. When the past is erased and a new present is born. I am a lebanese and I don’t see the logic in our constitution naming 3 heads for the state, a president, PM and a Speaker. I don’t understand why all must agree on the president and on the government member and the Speaker (That is in the constitution ya BV and it is anti-democratic by excellence)thats why i propose again, lets discuss the Taef constitution and we will all see that it holds only the name constitution but as a book of laws and rights its CRAP, and it must not be respected for the sake of teh future of our country.

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7161 Bad Vilbel Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:26:26 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/15/on-michel-suleiman/#comment-7161 Ralf, I don't think anyone here has questioned Suleiman being a nice guy, or assaulted his character. The responses were not at YOUR post, but rather at Mustapha's initial post about whether a "nice guy" was enough of a reason to qualify as president. The answer to which is NO. Now stop getting worked up and have some Arak or a beer, on me! :) Ralf,

I don’t think anyone here has questioned Suleiman being a nice guy, or assaulted his character.

The responses were not at YOUR post, but rather at Mustapha’s initial post about whether a “nice guy” was enough of a reason to qualify as president. The answer to which is NO.

Now stop getting worked up and have some Arak or a beer, on me! :)

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