Comments on: Inevitable Suleiman? http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/ Blogging Lebanese politics, business and society since 2005 Wed, 23 May 2012 14:09:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Opening Up To Michel Sleiman | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7095 Opening Up To Michel Sleiman | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:19:46 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7095 [...] • Back in August, I argued precisely for what Mr. Jumblat is doing today • I then Called Mr. Suleiman the inevitable candidate • I also shared an anecdote about him that a reader posted • In September I pinpointed the one word Mr. Suleiman likes to be associated with. [...] [...] • Back in August, I argued precisely for what Mr. Jumblat is doing today • I then Called Mr. Suleiman the inevitable candidate • I also shared an anecdote about him that a reader posted • In September I pinpointed the one word Mr. Suleiman likes to be associated with. [...]

]]> By: On Michel Suleiman | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7094 On Michel Suleiman | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:10:06 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7094 [...] On Michel Suleiman | August 15th, 2007  A reader made a comment on a previous post about the Lebanese Army’s head that I think deserves a bit more exposure. Here’s a personal story from Ralf, a reader: [...] [...] On Michel Suleiman | August 15th, 2007  A reader made a comment on a previous post about the Lebanese Army’s head that I think deserves a bit more exposure. Here’s a personal story from Ralf, a reader: [...]

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7093 Bad Vilbel Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:14:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7093 Ralf, I don't care if he's a general, a nice guy, or a jackass. He is a civil employee. He is forbidden by the constitution to run for president. He has no business (being a civil servant) giving political advice, threatening coups, or interacting with foreign heads of state (calling Bashar Assad). Those reasons should be enough (specially the constitution one) to disqualify him. But then again, you people don't understand the concept of law and constitution.... Ralf,

I don’t care if he’s a general, a nice guy, or a jackass.

He is a civil employee.
He is forbidden by the constitution to run for president.
He has no business (being a civil servant) giving political advice, threatening coups, or interacting with foreign heads of state (calling Bashar Assad).

Those reasons should be enough (specially the constitution one) to disqualify him.

But then again, you people don’t understand the concept of law and constitution….

]]> By: Ralf http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7092 Ralf Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:30:06 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7092 I don't know why you guys are attacking a guy that you know nothing of. Michel Sleiman came to a restaurant one sunday in his civilian cloth with a couple of people, I was having lunch there with my family and directly recognized him, but not the waiter who has been seating people. The small group asked for a small table to have lunch, and the waiter replied rudely: " Can't you see it's full!" and turned his back to go back to work. I thought that the waiter is going to find himself likin Sleiman boots in less than five seconds, to my surprise, Sleiman (head of the Leb Army) smiled to his friends and told them "Let's just go somewhere else". Which one of your leaders wheither from M8 or M14 wouldn't have made a scene and made himself acknowledged and got the best table. A governmental planton would have pulled rank the lebanese way "mannak 3arif ma3 min 3am te7ke!!!" Even a che77ad would have tried to insist and get a table. but no, Sleiman wearing his civilian cloth left without any publicity whatsoever which for me and my family witnessing the scene was very good publicity. As someone mentionned, if Sleiman was a syrian puppet he would have totally messed up your fake cedar revolution. His orders were clear since day 1 of the protests and that date is not March 14 but feb 15-16-17... Do your job as soldiers, protect the civilian right to protest. The army was exemplary those days and for the first time in my life, I felt that this army is really lebanese (the syrians were still there I remind you). Sleiman comes from a family from Amchit (Jbeil)and the town of Amchit respect that man even if some don't like him. His positions during the crisis prooved that he is a patriot and that he follows his conscious and the patriarch advices who as well prooved that he is on the same distance from all. I am not a big fan of generals becoming presidents, but not all generals make the worse presidents. The least we can say about Sleiman is that he is not on anyones side, and that makes him a good candidate for me. Constitution, coup, what marwan hmeide says or what aoun feels.... Kello 7ake 3al fadeh. when the smoke settle, the last man standing is the winner. I don’t know why you guys are attacking a guy that you know nothing of. Michel Sleiman came to a restaurant one sunday in his civilian cloth with a couple of people, I was having lunch there with my family and directly recognized him, but not the waiter who has been seating people. The small group asked for a small table to have lunch, and the waiter replied rudely: ” Can’t you see it’s full!” and turned his back to go back to work. I thought that the waiter is going to find himself likin Sleiman boots in less than five seconds, to my surprise, Sleiman (head of the Leb Army) smiled to his friends and told them “Let’s just go somewhere else”.
Which one of your leaders wheither from M8 or M14 wouldn’t have made a scene and made himself acknowledged and got the best table. A governmental planton would have pulled rank the lebanese way “mannak 3arif ma3 min 3am te7ke!!!”
Even a che77ad would have tried to insist and get a table. but no, Sleiman wearing his civilian cloth left without any publicity whatsoever which for me and my family witnessing the scene was very good publicity. As someone mentionned, if Sleiman was a syrian puppet he would have totally messed up your fake cedar revolution. His orders were clear since day 1 of the protests and that date is not March 14 but feb 15-16-17… Do your job as soldiers, protect the civilian right to protest. The army was exemplary those days and for the first time in my life, I felt that this army is really lebanese (the syrians were still there I remind you).
Sleiman comes from a family from Amchit (Jbeil)and the town of Amchit respect that man even if some don’t like him. His positions during the crisis prooved that he is a patriot and that he follows his conscious and the patriarch advices who as well prooved that he is on the same distance from all.
I am not a big fan of generals becoming presidents, but not all generals make the worse presidents.
The least we can say about Sleiman is that he is not on anyones side, and that makes him a good candidate for me.
Constitution, coup, what marwan hmeide says or what aoun feels…. Kello 7ake 3al fadeh. when the smoke settle, the last man standing is the winner.

]]> By: Traffic http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7091 Traffic Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:17:48 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7091 M14 cannot go through with Sleiman's bid for the presidency under any pretext. Marwan Hmade was clear on that yesterday. But I believe that the only reason M14 has not been very vocal in responding to Sleiman's hogwash, is to spare the army's morale another blow. M14 cannot go through with Sleiman’s bid for the presidency under any pretext. Marwan Hmade was clear on that yesterday. But I believe that the only reason M14 has not been very vocal in responding to Sleiman’s hogwash, is to spare the army’s morale another blow.

]]> By: Olmert http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7090 Olmert Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:19:27 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7090 Good my brothers, Keep up the good work. Good my brothers, Keep up the good work.

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7089 Bad Vilbel Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:10:12 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7089 The constitution prohibits a lot of things. Sadly, the Lebanese politicians treat it like a piece of toilet paper. None of this shit would be an issue if there was a complete respect for the laws and constitution of the land. The constitution prohibits a lot of things. Sadly, the Lebanese politicians treat it like a piece of toilet paper.
None of this shit would be an issue if there was a complete respect for the laws and constitution of the land.

]]> By: Fred http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7088 Fred Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:08:53 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7088 Suleiman=Lahoud reborn. Totally unacceptable. By appointing Suleiman, we would not move the country forward but perpetuate yet another stalemate. M14 was the begining of something new in Lebanon. It should be maintained not killed. Suleiman would be better off by maintaining his dignity and laureates through his Army Commander job not by moving in as a President. Anyway, doesn't the constitution prohibit him from becoming President? Suleiman=Lahoud reborn. Totally unacceptable.

By appointing Suleiman, we would not move the country forward but perpetuate yet another stalemate. M14 was the begining of something new in Lebanon. It should be maintained not killed.

Suleiman would be better off by maintaining his dignity and laureates through his Army Commander job not by moving in as a President. Anyway, doesn’t the constitution prohibit him from becoming President?

]]> By: Bad Vilbel http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7087 Bad Vilbel Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:47:29 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7087 Yup. It's been a month or two of "positioning", but many of us had suspected this was the plan all along. Aoun was the decoy, Suleiman was the real Syrian plan all along. And they managed to fool the idiot Sfeir into thinking this is a compromise candidate (it's not!). I am hoping that M14 is not as dumb as Sfeir is, and does not fall for this typical bait and switch ploy. And I still can't understand why Suleiman hasn't been fired. In any normal country, an army commander has no business giving advice to politicians, making calls to foreign heads of state (news is leaking now of his calling Bashar Assad recently) , or plotting to go around the constitution. Yup. It’s been a month or two of “positioning”, but many of us had suspected this was the plan all along. Aoun was the decoy, Suleiman was the real Syrian plan all along. And they managed to fool the idiot Sfeir into thinking this is a compromise candidate (it’s not!).

I am hoping that M14 is not as dumb as Sfeir is, and does not fall for this typical bait and switch ploy.

And I still can’t understand why Suleiman hasn’t been fired. In any normal country, an army commander has no business giving advice to politicians, making calls to foreign heads of state (news is leaking now of his calling Bashar Assad recently) , or plotting to go around the constitution.

]]> By: Ace http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7086 Ace Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:41:42 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/08/14/inevitable-suleiman/#comment-7086 Amazing that anyone can consider this seriously. We have all been waiting to see who the "real" Syrian choice is and now we know. This would not follow Law & would be un-Constitutional, so that mean just burning the Constitution? This amounts to a soft Military coup and there is no other way to put it. The Government has said they have proof that Syria is behind the Terrorist attacks and now Pres-elect Suleiman says they are lying? Time to show the proof, no matter who it burns. Time is short and Syria just made their move. Anybody remember a Military coup that brought a "general" to power and that "general" was ever willing to give up that power? Nope, I didn't think so. Amazing that anyone can consider this seriously. We have all been waiting to see who the “real” Syrian choice is and now we know. This would not follow Law & would be un-Constitutional, so that mean just burning the Constitution? This amounts to a soft Military coup and there is no other way to put it. The Government has said they have proof that Syria is behind the Terrorist attacks and now Pres-elect Suleiman says they are lying? Time to show the proof, no matter who it burns. Time is short and Syria just made their move.

Anybody remember a Military coup that brought a “general” to power and that “general” was ever willing to give up that power?

Nope, I didn’t think so.

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