Comments on: The Other Tripoli Bomb http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/ Blogging Lebanese politics, business and society since 2005 Wed, 23 May 2012 14:09:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: PM Safadi? | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6375 PM Safadi? | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:53:53 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6375 [...] In case you have been wondering about the “Safadi” problem, where a March 14 loyalist decided with his 4-member parliamentary bloc to toe the line of the opposition and advocate a two third quorum, depriving the majority of its simple majority, Alabalad, a Lebanese daily, has this morning shed some light on the circumstances. [...] [...] In case you have been wondering about the “Safadi” problem, where a March 14 loyalist decided with his 4-member parliamentary bloc to toe the line of the opposition and advocate a two third quorum, depriving the majority of its simple majority, Alabalad, a Lebanese daily, has this morning shed some light on the circumstances. [...]

]]> By: jay http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6374 jay Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:33:55 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6374 Anonymous says.. "March14th needs to screw the enemy (Syria) even if lebanon is lost." Don't you think Syria is the one doing the screwing here and March 14 is merely trying to put an end to there aggression. On another note...I am tired of the labels anti-Syrians and pro-Syrians. Let's call them for what they really are: pro-Lebanese or anti-Lebanese.. then you tell me who's working for the well-being and benefit of one united Lebanon and who's working for their own self-interest or the intereset of their regional masters. Anonymous says..
“March14th needs to screw the enemy (Syria) even if lebanon is lost.”

Don’t you think Syria is the one doing the screwing here and March 14 is merely trying to put an end to there aggression.

On another note…I am tired of the labels anti-Syrians and pro-Syrians. Let’s call them for what they really are: pro-Lebanese or anti-Lebanese..
then you tell me who’s working for the well-being and benefit of one united Lebanon and who’s working for their own self-interest or the intereset of their regional masters.

]]> By: Anonymous http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6373 Anonymous Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:52:46 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6373 As someone who has worked on the election campaign of the March 14 movement in Tripoli,I can safely say that Safadi's latest move is simply a maneuver in a bid to one day become Prime Minister. Safadi, who is effectively the most powerful man in Tripoli these days, has been playing these dirty power games since the elections. From what we heard, as campaigners of other March 14 candidates in tripoli, the Safadi camp was asking some supporters to scratch out all the other March 14 candidates on the list so that Safadi would end up with the majority among march 14 candidates. Why? He later got a cabinet seat, which was ultimately going to be given to the Sunni-Muslim in tripoli with the largest popular base. He also slowly expanded the tripoli bloc, which I predict will one day be some new bloc with a larger regional reach depending on the future electoral law. All this is, in my honest opinion, a bid by Safadi, who has large sums of money, to become Prime Minister. This latest move is an obvious shift to the center. He presumes that if there is an eventual Presidential election based on consensual candidate then when it comes to choosing a Prime Minister he may be a consensus choice that the opposition is willing to accept or even nominate. The opposition will view his Presidential election move favorably and will opt for anything that is at the very least semi-independent from the Future Movement, with a popular sunni base(financial motivated, trust me). This is all, however, assuming that the opposition does favor consensus over the status quo. Personally I don't think they do. I know I don't because a consensus based on these manipulative political maneuvers between two completely opposite views of the country will destroy the country! As someone who has worked on the election campaign of the March 14 movement in Tripoli,I can safely say that Safadi’s latest move is simply a maneuver in a bid to one day become Prime Minister. Safadi, who is effectively the most powerful man in Tripoli these days, has been playing these dirty power games since the elections. From what we heard, as campaigners of other March 14 candidates in tripoli, the Safadi camp was asking some supporters to scratch out all the other March 14 candidates on the list so that Safadi would end up with the majority among march 14 candidates. Why? He later got a cabinet seat, which was ultimately going to be given to the Sunni-Muslim in tripoli with the largest popular base. He also slowly expanded the tripoli bloc, which I predict will one day be some new bloc with a larger regional reach depending on the future electoral law. All this is, in my honest opinion, a bid by Safadi, who has large sums of money, to become Prime Minister. This latest move is an obvious shift to the center. He presumes that if there is an eventual Presidential election based on consensual candidate then when it comes to choosing a Prime Minister he may be a consensus choice that the opposition is willing to accept or even nominate. The opposition will view his Presidential election move favorably and will opt for anything that is at the very least semi-independent from the Future Movement, with a popular sunni base(financial motivated, trust me).

This is all, however, assuming that the opposition does favor consensus over the status quo. Personally I don’t think they do. I know I don’t because a consensus based on these manipulative political maneuvers between two completely opposite views of the country will destroy the country!

]]> By: Legend of the Fall http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6372 Legend of the Fall Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:33:13 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6372 Dear Beirut Spring, I have chosen August 14th to blog for Lebanon. The day when Isarel stopped its military operation against lebnen. Please join me and forward the message to the lebanese bloggers. I am looking for a logo. Let's making from August 14th, a day to blog for Lebanon, for its national unity, safety and stability. Plz visit my blog and tn-blogs.com Dear Beirut Spring, I have chosen August 14th to blog for Lebanon. The day when Isarel stopped its military operation against lebnen. Please join me and forward the message to the lebanese bloggers. I am looking for a logo.
Let’s making from August 14th, a day to blog for Lebanon, for its national unity, safety and stability.
Plz visit my blog and tn-blogs.com

]]> By: Sukleen http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6371 Sukleen Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:51:11 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6371 http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22073903-2,00.html Tank driver 'had beef' with phone towers For those about to shut off their cell phones on the 19th you might want to read the story from the link above to alternative methods of trying to convince a-holes in the gov't to reduce cost of the ridiculously limited cell services provided in LB. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22073903-2,00.html

Tank driver ‘had beef’ with phone towers

For those about to shut off their cell phones on the 19th you might want to read the story from the link above to alternative methods of trying to convince a-holes in the gov’t to reduce cost of the ridiculously limited cell services provided in LB.

]]> By: At Last http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6370 At Last Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:46:17 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6370 At Last , some sanity ..... Poor Future News paper , as always they try to mislead its people . They didn't even cover it............. Sad At Last , some sanity …..

Poor Future News paper , as always they try to mislead its people . They didn’t even cover it………….

Sad

]]> By: Ralf http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6369 Ralf Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:01:41 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6369 By the way, and to talk about the subject itself, even if today this 2/3 issue doesnt help the March 14, in the future it will benefit each community by itself, since no president can any longer be elected but appointed by the crushing majority of the parliament. Another lebanese fattouch in other terms. The big loosers for this 2/3 condition are the christians themselves, as they needed before 50% of the parliament votes which they have +1 other comunity vote to elect a president, now they will need 50% plus 27% of the muslim part of the parliament to elect a president. Aoun commited suicide with this decision, not one sunni or druze will ever vote for him ever, that is supposing that he has all the christian seats (haha)and all the shi3a seats (easy), the sunni and the druze will keep boycotting the presidentials till his billionth clone!!! Ma fi 2/3, sorry, ma fi presidentials!!! By the way, and to talk about the subject itself, even if today this 2/3 issue doesnt help the March 14, in the future it will benefit each community by itself, since no president can any longer be elected but appointed by the crushing majority of the parliament. Another lebanese fattouch in other terms. The big loosers for this 2/3 condition are the christians themselves, as they needed before 50% of the parliament votes which they have +1 other comunity vote to elect a president, now they will need 50% plus 27% of the muslim part of the parliament to elect a president. Aoun commited suicide with this decision, not one sunni or druze will ever vote for him ever, that is supposing that he has all the christian seats (haha)and all the shi3a seats (easy), the sunni and the druze will keep boycotting the presidentials till his billionth clone!!!
Ma fi 2/3, sorry, ma fi presidentials!!!

]]> By: Ralf http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6368 Ralf Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:17:42 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6368 Unbelievably confusing constitution and purely undemocratic. This 2/3 issue started lately true, but it will come back at every presidential election from now on. Pffff from now on, every president must have the support of 2/3 of the parliament to be automatically elected or else to hell with the presidency. It is ridiculous to call ourselves a democratic country when everything is made to be so undemocratic. Unbelievably confusing constitution and purely undemocratic. This 2/3 issue started lately true, but it will come back at every presidential election from now on. Pffff from now on, every president must have the support of 2/3 of the parliament to be automatically elected or else to hell with the presidency. It is ridiculous to call ourselves a democratic country when everything is made to be so undemocratic.

]]> By: Michael http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6367 Michael Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:48:37 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6367 What about this as a move to forestall future assassinations of March 14 MPs? If indeed the Tripoli Block has, with this statement, broken the back of the tiny March 14 majority (to paraphrase your statement) this makes more assassinations unnecessary. Yes, this is pure speculation on my part, and I would hasten to add that prior comments here sound more reasonable (plausible?), but we are talking about Lebanese politics here. What about this as a move to forestall future assassinations of March 14 MPs? If indeed the Tripoli Block has, with this statement, broken the back of the tiny March 14 majority (to paraphrase your statement) this makes more assassinations unnecessary. Yes, this is pure speculation on my part, and I would hasten to add that prior comments here sound more reasonable (plausible?), but we are talking about Lebanese politics here.

]]> By: FaiLaSooF http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6366 FaiLaSooF Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:35:58 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/07/16/the-other-tripoli-bomb/#comment-6366 Not to mention teh strong alliance between Safadi and Geagea. In alomost all of his interviews, Geagea seems keen to mention Safadi as a strong ally, and Safadi never fails to return the favor. So the analogy that Hariri and Safadi are trying to screw Geagea to gain more political support from people in Tripoli is NOT a valid one. Not to mention teh strong alliance between Safadi and Geagea. In alomost all of his interviews, Geagea seems keen to mention Safadi as a strong ally, and Safadi never fails to return the favor. So the analogy that Hariri and Safadi are trying to screw Geagea to gain more political support from people in Tripoli is NOT a valid one.

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