Does this foiling of the ill attmept by the Fateh al Islam mean the end of their motivation and plot, the rounding up of all its members? This shows how dangerously Lebanon is near total collapse. I think Lebanon needs a fresh new constitution that is 100% democratic. So what is the politics for and against granting Palestinian refugees Lebanese citizenship? If they are kept in the margins of society for sixty years, like the Shiites, what then do you expect from them?

No, this clearly shows how the Lebanese government is in cynically wrapping its tactics against the camps in the same language as George W Bush.

Strange how the Lebanese, full of righteous victimhood last year, can deploy the exact same language as the IDF and the Pentagon…

cos that puppet is better then the other puppets…..it all depends on where the strings lead really.

“Conspiratorial”… because no government ever has hyped threats to stifle debate? No government has used non-existent terrorist plots to bolster domestic control…?

No, no one could possibly suspect that Siniora, wilting in the polls and the subject of opposition from a unique union between the Shia poor and the Christian right, would ever contemplate plucking from his well-tailored back pocket a “Lebanese 9/11″?

It’s interesting, though, Mido how your list of problems faced by Lebanon doesn’t include one sentence on the 400,000 people systematically excluded from Lebanese life – whether in terms of basic rights or participation in the economy.

But keep singing the national anthem, keep praising the brave troops – those hardy souls who so stoically protected you from last year’s Israeli onslaught (no… wait…) – and thank the lord Hariri bequeathed a son to keep the real estate boom going…

Yes, I am cynical. Give me a reason to be otherwise in the Middle East of the 21st Century…

I know I won’t be able to convince you Lowfield, but I understood the Lebanese 9/11 came from the documents from Fateh al Islam itself. You see, Fateh al Islam celebrates 9/11. The celebrate mass murder and destruction and they want to match the 9/11 death toll. That is why they had a warehouse full of explosives. Bush had nothing to do with this, but Syria certainly did.

non-existant terrorist plots?? I know i dont have the evidence, the facts, and solid proof beyond any doubt that the plots exist, but, unless you think that the militants in the Nahr al Bared camp are non-existant too and that the bombs that keep going off in Lebanese cities are a figment of our imagination and that the attacks against the Lebanese Army were lies, you have no case whatsoever or any reason to believe that these plots don’t exist. Why would the Siniora government need to fabricate plots? Everyone in the country supports the army, and everyone is already motivated enough in their desire to see Fatah al Islam brought to justice. There certainly isn’t a need to instil a sense of fear in the Lebanese anymore by stories of plots. Bombs go off every week, they started off as plots!

And about the 400,000 thousand palestinians you’re talking about…

1. Do you actually think that the Siniora government is actively engaged in a sinister plan to isolate the palestinian refugees and keep them living in poverty? Why? For laughs? I suggest you visit Beib al tabaneh in tripoli where there are thousands of poverty-striken LEBANESE. What Arab country has done anything effective in support of the palestinian cause? What has the Baath regime done? For God’s sake what have the palestinians done that has effectively helped their cause? I can’t think of anything.
2. You speak as if the government of lebanon really has authority and the ability to enforce the rule of law across the whole country, and that we are living in a country where the government has billions of dollars in surplus revenue to throw away as a result of the many years of stability that the country has faced. All the Lebanese are living lavish lives, peacefully with no political instability and there arent 1 million syrian workers in the country adding to the drain on the economy, specifically the lower class!! In addition to having to deal with two asshole neighbors( i call them Soosoo and Soosoo) we have to deal with Hezb and their compatriots, post-war recovery, militant groups, etc. and all of this within the frameworks and institutions that the Syrians devised when they were in Lebanon!! Do you think Siniora has a magic frikin wand??? Some of the problems that a few people mention exist in all countries including G8 ones!! Do you really think that Siniora should have dealt with the infinite problems that Lebanon faces while dealing with all the constraints stated above from day one!!! Get real people and especially you Lowfields! God bless the Lebanese Army and Fouad Siniora!!

Good argument, Jalal… I’ve been called many things, but “a fucking Jew” isn’t one them. Win a lot of arguments with your powerful debating style?

Or did the evil wittle Palestinians stweel wor cwayons?

Retard.

Siniora is a powerless stooge, an embarassment to his post and his country. Tears when his brave army ran away last summer and left Hezbollah to do the work of defending the country from invasion, Arab League invites when faced with Olmert-like unpopulairty – “But my people love me!” – and now dropping in references to 9/11.

He’s a fucking champ. In fact, you’re right, Mido… he does need God’s blessing. And anyone else’s…. Bush’s? Peres’? Prince f***ing Bandar’s?

The you ask: “What Arab country has done anything effective in support of the palestinian cause?”

Well, a country called Jordan gave the majority of Palestinian refugees citizenship and full national rights and they effectively built the country… f**k, it’s actually better to be a Palestinian in Israel than your “Liberal, Western Democracy”.

But, no, you keep them penned up, keep them out of jobs, keep them in squalor… then express dismay when there may be just a little bit of extremism.

But you’re Lebanese and you’ve got tables to dance on….

It’s not me that needs to wake up.