Comments on: Busted: The Plan To Terrorize Tripoli And Convert It Into An "Islamic Emirate" http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/ Blogging Lebanese politics, business and society since 2005 Wed, 23 May 2012 14:09:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: The 3.5 Theories On Who Killed François Hajj | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5071 The 3.5 Theories On Who Killed François Hajj | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:25:04 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5071 [...] Who killed him: Hardline IslamistsWhy they did it: They want to revenge Mr. Hajj’s successful military campaign against their diabolical schemes in the Naher Al Bared camp in the north.Why it’s plausible: Only a suicidal freak can ram an explosive car in a General’s car in the heart of the Army’s security zone. Who believes this theory: Politicians might end up adopting this theory because it’s the most convenient and the most face-saving.Why the theory could be in doubt: for such a major “success”, you’d think Al-Quaeda’s leadership would jump in to claim it. That didn’t happen yet. [...] [...] Who killed him: Hardline IslamistsWhy they did it: They want to revenge Mr. Hajj’s successful military campaign against their diabolical schemes in the Naher Al Bared camp in the north.Why it’s plausible: Only a suicidal freak can ram an explosive car in a General’s car in the heart of the Army’s security zone. Who believes this theory: Politicians might end up adopting this theory because it’s the most convenient and the most face-saving.Why the theory could be in doubt: for such a major “success”, you’d think Al-Quaeda’s leadership would jump in to claim it. That didn’t happen yet. [...]

]]> By: Give Tripoli And Akkar Some Credit | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5070 Give Tripoli And Akkar Some Credit | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:10:47 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5070 [...] Assafir’s main story yesterday detailed what we knew all along. That Alquaeda believed that the Northern Sunni city of Tripoli would be a friendly environment for it to start violent activities that would ultimately culminate in an “Islamic Emirate” in Northern Lebanon. [...] [...] Assafir’s main story yesterday detailed what we knew all along. That Alquaeda believed that the Northern Sunni city of Tripoli would be a friendly environment for it to start violent activities that would ultimately culminate in an “Islamic Emirate” in Northern Lebanon. [...]

]]> By: diana http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5069 diana Sun, 03 Jun 2007 21:09:16 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5069 The paradigm has to change.1)Let Lebanon make peace w/Israel. Both countries could turn into the biggest financial powerhouse of the ME.2) There is no difference if Baby Assad or the M. Brotherhood is in charge of Syria. Both are bad for the Syrians Lebanese and for Israel.3) The camps have to be dissolved, the Palestinian people have to be absorved by their host countries and S. Arabia can finance this transition. They have suffered enough and they are still being castigated by their corrupt and inmoral leadership.(Israel absorved 3/4 million refugees from the Arab countries). The paradigm has to change.1)Let Lebanon make peace w/Israel. Both countries could turn into the biggest financial powerhouse of the ME.2) There is no difference if Baby Assad or the M. Brotherhood is in charge of Syria. Both are bad for the Syrians Lebanese and for Israel.3) The camps have to be dissolved, the Palestinian people have to be absorved by their host countries and S. Arabia can finance this transition. They have suffered enough and they are still being castigated by their corrupt and inmoral leadership.(Israel absorved 3/4 million refugees from the Arab countries).

]]> By: alex http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5068 alex Sun, 03 Jun 2007 20:02:25 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5068 People in the arab world regardless of there religion follow blindly what there parents worship, and no one can “obviously” conclude the divinity or the unholiness of a religion or a book if you didn’t understand or well-read about the religion, I don’t want to go to detail about my personal beliefs here but for me I read both the bible and the quran and compared both religions rationally and objectively without family or society hassle, to me it was a life journey and it ended up strengthen my faith in god. no one can be 100% sure of the credibility and the holiness of his belief or the existence of god, that’s why its call faith. People in the arab world regardless of there religion follow blindly what there parents worship, and no one can “obviously” conclude the divinity or the unholiness of a religion or a book if you didn’t understand or well-read about the religion,
I don’t want to go to detail about my personal beliefs here but for me I read both the bible and the quran and compared both religions rationally and objectively without family or society hassle, to me it was a life journey and it ended up strengthen my faith in god.
no one can be 100% sure of the credibility and the holiness of his belief or the existence of god, that’s why its call faith.

]]> By: Guy http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5067 Guy Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:40:32 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5067 To me Quran is not a holy book (obviously), but hey, if you open Torah and the rest of the Tanach you'll find plenty of examples too of calls for slaughter and what not. It's how you interpret those that matters. I think demonizing Islam is just plain silly. Fight instead to reclaim it from the extremists who claim their interpretation is the right one. That aside, any comments on the partition / federalization idea? What would Lebanese on the street say about it? How would the reactions of average sunni, shia, christian, druze differ? To me Quran is not a holy book (obviously), but hey, if you open Torah and the rest of the Tanach you’ll find plenty of examples too of calls for slaughter and what not. It’s how you interpret those that matters. I think demonizing Islam is just plain silly. Fight instead to reclaim it from the extremists who claim their interpretation is the right one.

That aside, any comments on the partition / federalization idea? What would Lebanese on the street say about it? How would the reactions of average sunni, shia, christian, druze differ?

]]> By: FDE http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5066 FDE Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:11:43 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5066 Rice wrote a huge check. How much was it? Rice wrote a huge check. How much was it?

]]> By: Al Qaeda and Syria in Lebanon « Michael P.F. van der Galiën http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5065 Al Qaeda and Syria in Lebanon « Michael P.F. van der Galiën Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:41:08 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5065 [...] The Lebanese Army foiled so-called Plan 755 which, reportedly, was a plot by Tripoli’s salafists to massacre local civilians, sever the city’s links to Beirut, and enslave the residents who couldn’t get out. [...] [...] The Lebanese Army foiled so-called Plan 755 which, reportedly, was a plot by Tripoli’s salafists to massacre local civilians, sever the city’s links to Beirut, and enslave the residents who couldn’t get out. [...]

]]> By: Alex http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5064 Alex Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:55:48 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5064 @ A let’s analyze the verse first; 9:111 Behold, God has bought of the believers their lives and their possessions, promising them paradise in return, ,[and so] they fight in God's cause, and slay, and are slain: a promise which in truth He has willed upon Himself in [the words of] the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Qur'an.... “Surat al toawba” talks about war times, hence "and are SLAIN" part, muslims are not allowed in any way to attack or kill innocent non-muslims during war or peace. Some verses that prohibit muslims from killing innocents; Quran 8:61 - But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things) Quran 60:8 - God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. Quran 2:193 - And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. Quran 2:256 - Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. Quran 15:2-3 - Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). i dont want to go in a debate here, but you need to learn about islam before you attack it. @ A
let’s analyze the verse first;
9:111 Behold, God has bought of the believers their lives and their
possessions, promising them paradise in return, ,[and so] they fight in God’s cause, and slay, and are slain: a promise which in truth He has willed upon Himself in [the words of] the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Qur’an….

“Surat al toawba” talks about war times, hence “and are SLAIN” part, muslims are not allowed in any way to attack or kill innocent non-muslims during war or peace.
Some verses that prohibit muslims from killing innocents;

Quran 8:61 – But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things)

Quran 60:8 – God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers.

Quran 2:193 – And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers.

Quran 2:256 – Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

Quran 15:2-3 – Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God’s will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them).

i dont want to go in a debate here, but you need to learn about islam before you attack it.

]]> By: shunkleash http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5063 shunkleash Sun, 03 Jun 2007 04:29:24 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5063 YA mustapha a farem alek...well said YA mustapha a farem alek…well said

]]> By: beirutspring http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5062 beirutspring Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:21:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/06/02/busted-the-terrorist-plan-to-terrorize-tripoli-and-convert-it-into-an-islamic-emirate/#comment-5062 Come on A, I'm a Muslim myself and I thank god day and night for the Lebanese Christians' moderating effect on my co-religionists. It is ignorance that breeds hate. The Lebanese Muslims are more moderate than their Arab brethren precisely because we are mingling with "the other".. Come on A,

I’m a Muslim myself and I thank god day and night for the Lebanese Christians’ moderating effect on my co-religionists.

It is ignorance that breeds hate. The Lebanese Muslims are more moderate than their Arab brethren precisely because we are mingling with “the other”..

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