Comments on: A Historic Day http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/ Blogging Lebanon since 2005 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:47:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Global Voices Online » Lebanon: The Special Tribunal and The Fighting http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-9043 Global Voices Online » Lebanon: The Special Tribunal and The Fighting Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:21:14 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-9043 [...] Other blogs like Beirut Spring and Jamal’s Propaganda also posted about the tribunal, but these were mentioned in the GVO roundups during the week. [...] [...] Other blogs like Beirut Spring and Jamal’s Propaganda also posted about the tribunal, but these were mentioned in the GVO roundups during the week. [...]

]]> By: Mazen http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8968 Mazen Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:11:36 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8968 many thanks for the clarification. many thanks for the clarification.

]]> By: maverick http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8954 maverick Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:32:58 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8954 well firstly ur not far off in your analysis,its what most ppl think looking from outside within.But to the folks inside who have waited 800 something days...the Tribunal was a means to an end,still is...but to the average lebanese mentality,it has become an end in itself.It is symbollic,or a sign post that points to the trials and tribulations that the Lebanese have gone through..this is why they didnt mind taking it internationally,and saying to the international community,look we need help,weve come along way and we dont intend on stopping no matter the price.The assissinated characters represented more then themselves,the tribunal isnt about idolising a leader,its about carrying on the legend,wether it be the secular modern lebanon of Hariri's,the Lebanon of the free and the liberal of Tweini and Kassir.Most lebanese dream of lebanon going in this direction,so they see the Tribunal as the common ground where all Lebanese of all walks of life share a common destiny,and this feeling,is what gives them hope for a better tomorrow.You see the tribunal,in reality would not do this,but the symbolism it has produced,has given fuel to the Cedar Revolution in the hearts and minds.... anyways just a humble opinion. well firstly ur not far off in your analysis,its what most ppl think looking from outside within.But to the folks inside who have waited 800 something days…the Tribunal was a means to an end,still is…but to the average lebanese mentality,it has become an end in itself.It is symbollic,or a sign post that points to the trials and tribulations that the Lebanese have gone through..this is why they didnt mind taking it internationally,and saying to the international community,look we need help,weve come along way and we dont intend on stopping no matter the price.The assissinated characters represented more then themselves,the tribunal isnt about idolising a leader,its about carrying on the legend,wether it be the secular modern lebanon of Hariri’s,the Lebanon of the free and the liberal of Tweini and Kassir.Most lebanese dream of lebanon going in this direction,so they see the Tribunal as the common ground where all Lebanese of all walks of life share a common destiny,and this feeling,is what gives them hope for a better tomorrow.You see the tribunal,in reality would not do this,but the symbolism it has produced,has given fuel to the Cedar Revolution in the hearts and minds….
anyways just a humble opinion.

]]> By: Guy http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8948 Guy Thu, 31 May 2007 21:30:12 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8948 I'd like to say congratulations, but I'm not sure if there's a reason. Let's say it goes full ahead. Let's say Syria, its agents, and its dictator are implicated. Let's even say some Hizballah-affiliated men who did the actual deed are found. So? Will it stop Syria from interfering in your affairs? No. Will it silence Hizballah and its sponsors? No. Until Lebanese Sunni, Druze, and Christian pressure their leaders to actively fight Syria, until the Shia pressure their leaders (Nasrallah etc) to play to their own and not Syrian/Iranian interests, until then nothing will change. This tribunal will be simply yet another notch on the belt, convincing one part of Lebanon that they are surrounded by savages, and convincing the other part that they are being cornered by infidels. What gives? And yes, I'm Israeli, and I have very shallow understanding of Lebanese affairs, so I would appreciate if someone who actually knows better could tell me why I'm mistaken and this tribunal will lead to positive results. I’d like to say congratulations, but I’m not sure if there’s a reason.
Let’s say it goes full ahead. Let’s say Syria, its agents, and its dictator are implicated. Let’s even say some Hizballah-affiliated men who did the actual deed are found. So? Will it stop Syria from interfering in your affairs? No. Will it silence Hizballah and its sponsors? No. Until Lebanese Sunni, Druze, and Christian pressure their leaders to actively fight Syria, until the Shia pressure their leaders (Nasrallah etc) to play to their own and not Syrian/Iranian interests, until then nothing will change. This tribunal will be simply yet another notch on the belt, convincing one part of Lebanon that they are surrounded by savages, and convincing the other part that they are being cornered by infidels. What gives?
And yes, I’m Israeli, and I have very shallow understanding of Lebanese affairs, so I would appreciate if someone who actually knows better could tell me why I’m mistaken and this tribunal will lead to positive results.

]]> By: Manuela http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8946 Manuela Thu, 31 May 2007 20:47:30 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8946 This is the first step in the right direction. I hope justice will be finally done in Lebanon. 30 years of unjustness and terrible abuse were more than enough! It would have been a much different and, I think better Lebanon if the US and France have acted differently in 1983. I am not a Lebanese, but I know people there and I am always keeping an eye on the country. I have briefly reported about this extremely significant day on publiuspundit, but you Mustapha said it better. Thank you and Mabrouk!! This is the first step in the right direction. I hope justice will be finally done in Lebanon. 30 years of unjustness and terrible abuse were more than enough! It would have been a much different and, I think better Lebanon if the US and France have acted differently in 1983.

I am not a Lebanese, but I know people there and I am always keeping an eye on the country. I have briefly reported about this extremely significant day on publiuspundit, but you Mustapha said it better. Thank you and Mabrouk!!

]]> By: The Lebanese Connection http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8941 The Lebanese Connection Thu, 31 May 2007 11:10:15 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8941 Another small step. 10 Days of anticipation ahead. Another small step.
10 Days of anticipation ahead.

]]> By: beirutspring http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8940 beirutspring Thu, 31 May 2007 10:07:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8940 Well mazen, it simply means that if the Lebanese government doesn't say otherwise, the resolution would be considered effective as of june 10. In other words, the resolution is effectively effective as of june 10.. Well mazen, it simply means that if the Lebanese government doesn’t say otherwise, the resolution would be considered effective as of june 10. In other words, the resolution is effectively effective as of june 10..

]]> By: Mazen http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8939 Mazen Thu, 31 May 2007 07:22:22 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8939 Could anyone explain to me what is that part of the resolution that says that Lebanon should pass the resolution in its parliament before June 10th ? I mean, what if that doesn't happen? Does that mean the resolution will "expire" ? I'm sorry, but I did not understand that part at all. From what I know, this was the problem for the past few months in Lebanon, so what difference now if they still have to pass it locally in Lebanon anyway? Thanx in advance for the answer Could anyone explain to me what is that part of the resolution that says that Lebanon should pass the resolution in its parliament before June 10th ? I mean, what if that doesn’t happen? Does that mean the resolution will “expire” ? I’m sorry, but I did not understand that part at all.
From what I know, this was the problem for the past few months in Lebanon, so what difference now if they still have to pass it locally in Lebanon anyway?

Thanx in advance for the answer

]]> By: Jester http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8938 Jester Thu, 31 May 2007 05:06:31 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8938 863 days later... a sunny day shines over Beyrouth :) 863 days later… a sunny day shines over Beyrouth :)

]]> By: ibn kais http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8936 ibn kais Thu, 31 May 2007 01:32:07 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8936 All I can say Mabrouk! indeed a big day for the future of Lebanon All I can say Mabrouk! indeed a big day for the future of Lebanon

]]> By: No Fear http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8932 No Fear Wed, 30 May 2007 20:11:52 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8932 We need the real moderate people in Tayyar and Hizballah to say no to "lie and believe" and deny their leaders who are taking lebanon to war and disasters they should say No to division no to seperation and yes for justice and civilization against chaos and fake titles ! Wake up People Lebanon will forever be the land of the cedars for all lebanese above politics and above all lies and whatever will happen, whatever will be TRUTH takes it over! We need the real moderate people in Tayyar and Hizballah to say no to “lie and believe” and deny their leaders who are taking lebanon to war and disasters they should say No to division no to seperation and yes for justice and civilization against chaos and fake titles ! Wake up People Lebanon will forever be the land of the cedars for all lebanese above politics and above all lies and whatever will happen, whatever will be TRUTH takes it over!

]]> By: FaiLaSooF http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8931 FaiLaSooF Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:08 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8931 Totally agree Mostapha. And I think this would be the perfect chance for all of us to just forget about the differences, and focus on establishing bridges among us for a better Liban. I hope March 14th would invite the opposition, and especially Speaker Berri, to hold a parliament session, so that the Tribunal would be established locally, instead of it being established under chapter VII. It makes no sense now to keep insisting on blocking the Tribunal, and I think such step would re-build some sort of trust among the two sides... A trust that has been lost in the past couple of years. Totally agree Mostapha.

And I think this would be the perfect chance for all of us to just forget about the differences, and focus on establishing bridges among us for a better Liban.

I hope March 14th would invite the opposition, and especially Speaker Berri, to hold a parliament session, so that the Tribunal would be established locally, instead of it being established under chapter VII. It makes no sense now to keep insisting on blocking the Tribunal, and I think such step would re-build some sort of trust among the two sides… A trust that has been lost in the past couple of years.

]]> By: A. Kara http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8926 A. Kara Wed, 30 May 2007 14:03:58 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8926 I agree. Truly, truly a historic day!! If all goes well, as I hope it will, the tribunal will restore the many people's faith in the country-- people who place justice and the greater good above their personal and parochial interests. I agree. Truly, truly a historic day!!
If all goes well, as I hope it will, the tribunal will restore the many people’s faith in the country– people who place justice and the greater good above their personal and parochial interests.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Lebanon: Hariri Tribunal Wait Over http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/comment-page-1/#comment-8925 Global Voices Online » Lebanon: Hariri Tribunal Wait Over Wed, 30 May 2007 12:46:07 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/30/a-historic-day/#comment-8925 [...] “Today, after a long wait, the International Tribunal will be established. The next priority is to build bridges, mend fences and restore unity and confidence in this country,” writes Beirut Spring. Share This [...] [...] “Today, after a long wait, the International Tribunal will be established. The next priority is to build bridges, mend fences and restore unity and confidence in this country,” writes Beirut Spring. Share This [...]

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