If the camps are a red line, please ask hassouna if blowing civilian buses isn’t, attacking the lebanese army isn’t…
We know that hiding behind civilians isnt a red line for hassoun as we’ve seen his heroes last summer launching katiouchas from verandas. Enough amghika and isghaiil paranoia. we are not brainwashed like his followers.

Nasrallah is walking a tight rope. Here me out: Mafi Khat Ahmar bilubnan, this imaginary red line needs to be deleted. These red lines are the make of Syrian propaganda. I’ll tell you where the line is: it’s called the Lebanese law, you cross the line and you may end up being dead in times like this, enough said. Don’t f&^% with Lubnan and all is good. Nasrallah is using FUD to keep Lubnan in the arms of Sooria Al Shaqueeka…Ya haram, sounds like Bush post 9/11

Given the intense level of behind the scenes negotiations that have occured, I dont think Nasrallah makes this statement unless he is confident that a significant portion of the LAF leadership agree. HA’s relationship with the LAF is too critical for it to be otherwise. So I am not sure your question is relevant, unless you believe that every policy or decision must necessarily be pro-Syrian or anti-Syrian in character and substance.

Well duh. Nasrallah hasn’t been a partner in anything in a long time.

I have no idea what Nasrallah is thinking. Let’s assume for the sake of discussion he is being totally straight. And let’s assume, also, that Fatah al Islam is really a part of Al Qaeda. (I have no idea if it is.)

How on earth does he or anyone else think Al Qaeda can fought politically or through the judiciary? In no country on earth has anything like this been possible with such people.

I am no fan of Hezbollah, but they are European social democrats compared with Al Qaeda.

If Al Qaeda is allowed to breathe in Lebanon, they will lots and lots and lots of Lebanese.

Erase them from the face of the earth.

Mistake is his….

Nasrallah appears to be resorting to the same old civil war logic; he views this as a Sunni war, and does not want “them” to achieve a success which would increase “their” power at his expense.

In a sense, he is being self-consistent; he is a sectarian Shiite leader with a claim to God as a member of his party.

Nassrallah wants the army to fail in restoring what is called “the Lebanese Nation”

Nasrallah knows that the army can do a great job (now that they have received advanced weapons) in “clearing” the palestinian camps and finish with all those terrorist cells. He doesn’t want that to happen, cause he would be next !!

But whether he likes it or not, we’re going in, cleaning the mess and imposing the lebanese law in those camps

i just hope nasrallah is smart enaugh not to get in the army way, cause this would only accelerate the disarmement of hizballah

Nassrallah is not “acting” like this is a sunni war. This is a sunni war. Nahr l bared is a 10 minutes drive from my home, and i have been following this story since fatah al islam took over the camp.And the truth is that this group and many other sunni extremest groups have been funded by the futur movment in the north. And it was movment that encouraged and helped Fatah al islam to take over the camp and kick the pro syrians fatah lintifada out. And during the funral of that guy that died in beb al tibaneh they were saying that they(the FM) gave money and guns and now they’re killing us one by one. And all the people leaving the camp are saying that this is happening because of the future, and they aqe refusing all the help that is coming from them. And mu7tapha u should ask people in abou samra who are jindo allah and what is there connection to fatah al islam and to the future movment. And i th4nk that nassrallah knows this. And thats why he said what he said

Darko your a champion!

…but a champion of stupidity…

Darko brother that last comment was not mine: please do not be fooled!

some idiots on this blog, as some people do not like the opionions of pthers to be in contradiction with Mustafa or whatever the Mustahbal or Nahar ‘newspaper’ rags state

To the person who imposted my name: get a life you loser

Whether it was a “10 minutes drive” or a 10 hour flight, and whether it is a sunni war is beside the point.

as 1973 was a Christian war, 2007 may be a Sunni war. So what? Now, the army must win.

I believe Nasrallah has a point, though I am no HA supporter. The Bush Administration is so desperate at this point, that if this thing goes on, they might hijack the situation and make it their own cause… losers would do anything to divert attention, and the US is no better than any other country.. they would rather have a new front blow up and widen the conflict than cut their losses and move out with their heads between their legs..
one thing I feel is important, as some others have mentioned as well, this shouldn’t go on for long… I dont know the size and location of this camp well, but an army backed up the most powerful country in the world should be able to besiege and demand they surrender and it seems to me they would… thinking that we should eliminate every man standing is naive… there are plenty soldiers of fortunr out there on both Al-Qaeda and Syria’s payroll… so a political and judicial solution is another word for a symbolic conclusion to the conflict and deportation of the militants.
the problem with leb is not that it hasnt been able to root out terrorists but that for cheap political gain, it has supported and given them entry and safe havens in the country.. maybe thats the lesson 2 b learned.

To all conspiracy theoreticians or dillusional junkies (same same) please come back to reality if you want to take part in reality. Lebanese just like the rest of the arabs love talking and analyzing politics, and specially give lessons about politics to the rest of the world and especially the US. What a joke! Lebanon, a country of barbarians who NEVER EVER got to unite under one flag wants to tell the Americans, the leading democratical system in the world what to do or how to behave, basing their analysis on what that son of a monkey Nasrallah has gargelled last night.
I sometime wish that the US backs up from the middle east and leave all the arabs get crushed and annihilated by their own civil wars or by theese 4 million jews that prooved they can kick the donkey ass of 100 million arabs.
All those who wish the defeat of the US in the Middle East, we know who you are: a bunch of brainless agressives who wants all the arab countries to stay in the barbaric ages so you can reign with fear on uneducated uncivilized masses.
Future will tell who is desperate and for what reason

Craig, a couple things I would point out to you.
-Saddam hadn’t committed any overt crimes against Americans when US troops invaded Iraq in 03.

-Most probably, it was HA that committed the 83 atrocity against the Marines, but recall that it was the president of the country who actually fooled (stabbed in the back, if you want) Americans into thinking his factional war against one major portion of the population, the Muslims, was neutral and in national interest.

-And why are you so sure that this conflict wouldn’t serve as a good pretext to establish a presence in Leb and confront HA down the line… (even if I despised HA, I wouldnt want Americans to take matters into their own hands.. the reason? simply you guys just dont have a good record, i.e. any successes, in these things.

craig,not sure your comment,” the US was *not* in fact a participant in the civil war.”is a correct.They did launch missiles from their New Jersey ships into the mountains killing many druzes after Gemayels request.I actually rememeber those days,rushing down to the basement of the building,actually my relatives might still have shells as ornaments and vases in their homes,anyways the past is the past…but seriously The US did get dragged into the war and did take sides as they have always done…unless you can come up with an example of the US really being neutral peace keepers.And about hizbollah getting smashed by the US?i dont think they could do better then the Isrealis in this aspect,but if they did,theyd probably destroy the whole country too.Maybe even drop a few cluster bombs for revenge of those marines.

Although late to discussion, but US is the one country creating problems for the me. Arm and aid Israelis, takes sides in Iran-Iraq war, establish monopoly in the gulf region to safeguard its oil interest. If it wasn’t for the oil, US would not be no where near the gulf.

Those Lebanese that support and welcome US intervention in Lebanon, be cautious that US did not help Vietnam, Afghanistan and many other countries in the world. Today it is not helping Iraq….

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