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		<title>By: AUTHERTNOTA</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4816</link>
		<dc:creator>AUTHERTNOTA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us share their best recipes on the weekend, my best recipes: <a href="http://cooking-light-recipes.wikidot.com/" rel="nofollow">cooking light recipes</a></p>
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		<title>By: MediaChannel.org</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4815</link>
		<dc:creator>MediaChannel.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 15:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Civilian Casualties Mustapha raised the issue of the civilian casualties and the ethical issues that it poses: Indeed, terrorists hiding among civilians pose a moral dilemma, and the humanitarian crisis should not be ignored. But does that mean that the Army should somehow start “talking” with terrorists whose only aim is to destabilize Lebanon? A lot is at stake in the Army’s zero-tolerance policy. A “softer” and “more understanding” Army will send the wrong signals to would-be-terrorists that it is ok in the future to attack the military. Moreover, the Army has to send a clear message to the residents of the camps: Not handing the terrorists over will cost you much more than keeping them around. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Civilian Casualties Mustapha raised the issue of the civilian casualties and the ethical issues that it poses: Indeed, terrorists hiding among civilians pose a moral dilemma, and the humanitarian crisis should not be ignored. But does that mean that the Army should somehow start “talking” with terrorists whose only aim is to destabilize Lebanon? A lot is at stake in the Army’s zero-tolerance policy. A “softer” and “more understanding” Army will send the wrong signals to would-be-terrorists that it is ok in the future to attack the military. Moreover, the Army has to send a clear message to the residents of the camps: Not handing the terrorists over will cost you much more than keeping them around. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Does The Army Have A Plan? &#124; The Beirut Spring</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4814</link>
		<dc:creator>Does The Army Have A Plan? &#124; The Beirut Spring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 11:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This blog advocates strong action against the terrorists. But strong action without a plan is a recipe for disaster. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This blog advocates strong action against the terrorists. But strong action without a plan is a recipe for disaster. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4813</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 02:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, we are sounding like the Israelis. Shu el issa ya shabaib. I support el jeish... but not when the number in the NYT are 15 millitants and 15 civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, we are sounding like the Israelis. Shu el issa ya shabaib. I support el jeish&#8230; but not when the number in the NYT are 15 millitants and 15 civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4812</link>
		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mustapha,

You have drank too much cool-aid already.

Fat7-l-islam split off Fat7-l-intifada (the latter a Syrian creation) precisely because they did not want to tow the Syrian intelligence line. This was their own admission. This is an extreme Sunni organization which views Alawis and the Shia on par with the Israelis and Americans, if not worse. So why exactly does Syria finance and support an organization that regards it as heretic and sees it and its allies as the enemy?

And it seems to me that after so many alleged assassinations and aims at “destabilizing” Lebanon as the March 14th camp claims , that Syria only gets deeper in the hole, and brings even more timely pressure on itself by the US and its typical international chorus, and precipitates even more vociferous calls to push the tribunal through Chapter 7  that you would think they would have learned their lesson and laid low for a while, no? You would think that they would have realized that every time an assassination takes place, every time a bomb blows off somewhere, where the gov’t camp pounces on it and exploits it to immediate political gain at the regional and international expense of Syria, lending their weakened voice some further life, that the Syrians would have learned their lesson and come to understand that they cannot compete with the power and reach of the Saatchi and Saatchi crowd?

And now, exactly what gains does Syria get out of this, except the usual condemnation without proof based on the claims and innuendos of a discredited clique who are holding on for dear life at the behest of a falling and fallen  empire who only  a year ago conspired and bombed their country into the stone age, and resisting (this is the only resisting they know) and fighting calls for new parliamentarian elections while unashamedly claiming to be the voice of the majority? If you are the voice of the majority, then give the majority the opportunity to vote you back in. Then you can legitimately shut the other camps down once and for all.

Syria is not without sin. But the puerile trust you have in a political faction to guide and lead you even while we all stand at the edge of the abyss is precisely why we are in the mess we find our selves in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mustapha,</p>
<p>You have drank too much cool-aid already.</p>
<p>Fat7-l-islam split off Fat7-l-intifada (the latter a Syrian creation) precisely because they did not want to tow the Syrian intelligence line. This was their own admission. This is an extreme Sunni organization which views Alawis and the Shia on par with the Israelis and Americans, if not worse. So why exactly does Syria finance and support an organization that regards it as heretic and sees it and its allies as the enemy?</p>
<p>And it seems to me that after so many alleged assassinations and aims at “destabilizing” Lebanon as the March 14th camp claims , that Syria only gets deeper in the hole, and brings even more timely pressure on itself by the US and its typical international chorus, and precipitates even more vociferous calls to push the tribunal through Chapter 7  that you would think they would have learned their lesson and laid low for a while, no? You would think that they would have realized that every time an assassination takes place, every time a bomb blows off somewhere, where the gov’t camp pounces on it and exploits it to immediate political gain at the regional and international expense of Syria, lending their weakened voice some further life, that the Syrians would have learned their lesson and come to understand that they cannot compete with the power and reach of the Saatchi and Saatchi crowd?</p>
<p>And now, exactly what gains does Syria get out of this, except the usual condemnation without proof based on the claims and innuendos of a discredited clique who are holding on for dear life at the behest of a falling and fallen  empire who only  a year ago conspired and bombed their country into the stone age, and resisting (this is the only resisting they know) and fighting calls for new parliamentarian elections while unashamedly claiming to be the voice of the majority? If you are the voice of the majority, then give the majority the opportunity to vote you back in. Then you can legitimately shut the other camps down once and for all.</p>
<p>Syria is not without sin. But the puerile trust you have in a political faction to guide and lead you even while we all stand at the edge of the abyss is precisely why we are in the mess we find our selves in.</p>
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		<title>By: Joumana</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4811</link>
		<dc:creator>Joumana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know very well what being soft 30 years ago cost this country, and what it&#039;s still costing it. This is the army&#039;s chance to take its place as only legitimate armed defender of this country&#039;s citizens. A guard dog that hesitates is useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know very well what being soft 30 years ago cost this country, and what it&#8217;s still costing it. This is the army&#8217;s chance to take its place as only legitimate armed defender of this country&#8217;s citizens. A guard dog that hesitates is useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Lebanon: Violent Clashes and an Explosion</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4810</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Lebanon: Violent Clashes and an Explosion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Civilian Casualties Mustapha raised the issue of the civilian casualties and the ethical issues that it poses: Indeed, terrorists hiding among civilians pose a moral dilemma, and the humanitarian crisis should not be ignored. But does that mean that the Army should somehow start “talking” with terrorists whose only aim is to destabilize Lebanon? A lot is at stake in the Army’s zero-tolerance policy. A “softer” and “more understanding” Army will send the wrong signals to would-be-terrorists that it is ok in the future to attack the military. Moreover, the Army has to send a clear message to the residents of the camps: Not handing the terrorists over will cost you much more than keeping them around. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Civilian Casualties Mustapha raised the issue of the civilian casualties and the ethical issues that it poses: Indeed, terrorists hiding among civilians pose a moral dilemma, and the humanitarian crisis should not be ignored. But does that mean that the Army should somehow start “talking” with terrorists whose only aim is to destabilize Lebanon? A lot is at stake in the Army’s zero-tolerance policy. A “softer” and “more understanding” Army will send the wrong signals to would-be-terrorists that it is ok in the future to attack the military. Moreover, the Army has to send a clear message to the residents of the camps: Not handing the terrorists over will cost you much more than keeping them around. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: beirutspring</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4809</link>
		<dc:creator>beirutspring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah right Ali, and Hariri is paying the Syrians to smuggle arms to them too..

Perhaps you should stop watching al-manar for a change..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah right Ali, and Hariri is paying the Syrians to smuggle arms to them too..</p>
<p>Perhaps you should stop watching al-manar for a change..</p>
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		<title>By: hilal</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4808</link>
		<dc:creator>hilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FaiLaSooF Says:

1- &quot;Let’s Not forget what Jordan did to the Palestenian fighters&quot;

so we do the same?

2- &quot;how Syria and Egypt treat Palestenian refugees&quot;.

Actually they treat them very well (humanistic rights), at least in syria.

3- &quot;We have provided everything for them&quot;

huh? Everything? that&#039;s new to me.


and by the way, Fat7 el islam is not considered Palestinian, in case u missed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FaiLaSooF Says:</p>
<p>1- &#8220;Let’s Not forget what Jordan did to the Palestenian fighters&#8221;</p>
<p>so we do the same?</p>
<p>2- &#8220;how Syria and Egypt treat Palestenian refugees&#8221;.</p>
<p>Actually they treat them very well (humanistic rights), at least in syria.</p>
<p>3- &#8220;We have provided everything for them&#8221;</p>
<p>huh? Everything? that&#8217;s new to me.</p>
<p>and by the way, Fat7 el islam is not considered Palestinian, in case u missed it.</p>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/the-case-for-firm-action/#comment-4807</link>
		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fat7-l-islam, 3ousbat-n-nour, 3usbat-l-ansar, all al-qa3ida clones, are the Salafi, takfiri Frankensteins originally financed, encouraged and maintained by little-man, over-his-head Hariri, that will come back to bite his ass, but may burn Lebanon in the process.

Stop the hypocrisy and the misinformation of blaming Syria, and address these groups for who they are: Salafi Arab (Saudi, Jordanian, Moroccan, Algerian, etc…) nationals, mixed with more disaffected Sunni Lebanese youths, along with some extreme Palestinian elements who were allowed to exist and flourish with complete knowledge and encouragement by the present gov’t clique in the hope of leveraging some illusory military counterweight to the Hizb. Lo and behold, the tiger went natural and has his master’s ass in his mouth.

Salafis dream of inflicting greater harm than the benign mission they were being groomed to fulfill. It seems the lessons of Afghanistan and Iraq are not bloody enough reminders for the ostrich race pretending to run a country in Lebanon. Now you reap what thine own hands have sown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat7-l-islam, 3ousbat-n-nour, 3usbat-l-ansar, all al-qa3ida clones, are the Salafi, takfiri Frankensteins originally financed, encouraged and maintained by little-man, over-his-head Hariri, that will come back to bite his ass, but may burn Lebanon in the process.</p>
<p>Stop the hypocrisy and the misinformation of blaming Syria, and address these groups for who they are: Salafi Arab (Saudi, Jordanian, Moroccan, Algerian, etc…) nationals, mixed with more disaffected Sunni Lebanese youths, along with some extreme Palestinian elements who were allowed to exist and flourish with complete knowledge and encouragement by the present gov’t clique in the hope of leveraging some illusory military counterweight to the Hizb. Lo and behold, the tiger went natural and has his master’s ass in his mouth.</p>
<p>Salafis dream of inflicting greater harm than the benign mission they were being groomed to fulfill. It seems the lessons of Afghanistan and Iraq are not bloody enough reminders for the ostrich race pretending to run a country in Lebanon. Now you reap what thine own hands have sown</p>
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