Comments on: Syria’s Defense http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/ Blogging Lebanon since 2005 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:47:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: LebanesePatriot http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-9094 LebanesePatriot Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:17:58 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-9094 I found it. It is Seymour Hersh (or hish!) and not Simon H. :) I found it. It is Seymour Hersh (or hish!)
and not Simon H.

:)

]]> By: LebanesePatriot http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-9088 LebanesePatriot Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:23:52 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-9088 Guys, Did anyone see the article from Simon H. in an American magazine that the news was talking about before. The article said that Future Movement is the one who created Fateh Al Islam? I like to see what kind of proof that bastard (Simon H.) is talking about? Guys,

Did anyone see the article from Simon H. in an American magazine that the news was talking about before. The article said that Future Movement is the one who created Fateh Al Islam?

I like to see what kind of proof that bastard (Simon H.) is talking about?

]]> By: Richard Lionheart http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8916 Richard Lionheart Tue, 29 May 2007 13:42:12 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8916 "Coincidence" does not exist in the political vocabulary; to uncover the recent situation, one has to realize the benifactor from the escalating events. Syria is the main benifactor from Lebanon's ills on many fronts: *This week the International Tribunal will be set in motion, it will be a major headliner for the world public opinion to read; the events in Lebanon stole the headline. *Syria's economy will benefit from the bloody events in Lebanon; Syria hopes its tourism will pick up again on the misfortunes of their neighbours. *Syria can point the finger at the Lebanese government and accusing it as dysfunctional. Sure Syria is behind Fath Al Islam group;it is war by proxy. “Coincidence” does not exist in the political vocabulary; to uncover the recent situation, one has to realize the benifactor from the escalating events. Syria is the main benifactor from Lebanon’s ills on many fronts:
*This week the International Tribunal will be set in motion, it will be a major headliner for the world public opinion to read; the events in Lebanon stole the headline.
*Syria’s economy will benefit from the bloody events in Lebanon; Syria hopes its tourism will pick up again on the misfortunes of their neighbours.
*Syria can point the finger at the Lebanese government and accusing it as dysfunctional.
Sure Syria is behind Fath Al Islam group;it is war by proxy.

]]> By: Brian H http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8718 Brian H Wed, 23 May 2007 06:52:27 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8718 I'm not sure I can trust the thinking of anyone who says that you can "tow a line" (pull a rope, maybe?) instead of "toe a line" (stand where you're told to). 8-D Syria's nightmare would be having 3 democracies on its borders. And it's so FAR from Mother Iran! Oh, dear, what to do ...?? I know; Let's try Terrorism! That'll work!! I’m not sure I can trust the thinking of anyone who says that you can “tow a line” (pull a rope, maybe?) instead of “toe a line” (stand where you’re told to). 8-D

Syria’s nightmare would be having 3 democracies on its borders. And it’s so FAR from Mother Iran! Oh, dear, what to do …?? I know; Let’s try Terrorism! That’ll work!!

]]> By: maverick http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8701 maverick Tue, 22 May 2007 15:22:59 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8701 The only idiots in this field are those who fall for the who dunnit murder mystery,trying to justify that Syria cannot be that stupid....Newsflash Hamasnis are that stupid,so stupid that they see the rest of the world from their limited if not backward vision,M is right,Syrias used up all their cards,lets be patient with the government bashers,and hope the tribunal delivers. The only idiots in this field are those who fall for the who dunnit murder mystery,trying to justify that Syria cannot be that stupid….Newsflash Hamasnis are that stupid,so stupid that they see the rest of the world from their limited if not backward vision,M is right,Syrias used up all their cards,lets be patient with the government bashers,and hope the tribunal delivers.

]]> By: Ibn Kais http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8698 Ibn Kais Tue, 22 May 2007 14:53:51 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8698 D, It is obvious you're a Syrian agent as it is fairly obvious who has used these tactics in the past to destabilize Lebanon. Your Syrian masters will be taught a lesson though. You're just another agent of the criminal cowards, or maybe, you're seriously retarded and has been brainwashed by Syria's propaganda. D,

It is obvious you’re a Syrian agent as it is fairly obvious who has used these tactics in the past to destabilize Lebanon. Your Syrian masters will be taught a lesson though. You’re just another agent of the criminal cowards, or maybe, you’re seriously retarded and has been brainwashed by Syria’s propaganda.

]]> By: M http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8688 M Tue, 22 May 2007 11:05:14 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8688 The opinion of Ali logically speaking makes sense, but unfortunately the normal logic has no place in Syrian politics. The only logic that they have is Terror, sorry Ali I dnt mean to disappoint you but Hizballah and Aoun and Fateh and whoever is alligned with Syria now is not an ally it is a tool to use against Lebanon. Using Hizballah didnt work Using Explosions didnt work Killing Free People didnt work Paralyzing the country didnt work Paralysing the institutions didnt work Getting Foreign fighters and engage the in battle with Lebanse Army also will not work. I believe they are running out of cards and let us hope it is the last one! The opinion of Ali logically speaking makes sense, but unfortunately the normal logic has no place in Syrian politics. The only logic that they have is Terror, sorry Ali I dnt mean to disappoint you but Hizballah and Aoun and Fateh and whoever is alligned with Syria now is not an ally it is a tool to use against Lebanon.
Using Hizballah didnt work
Using Explosions didnt work
Killing Free People didnt work
Paralyzing the country didnt work
Paralysing the institutions didnt work
Getting Foreign fighters and engage the in battle with Lebanse Army also will not work.
I believe they are running out of cards and let us hope it is the last one!

]]> By: Nemo http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8685 Nemo Tue, 22 May 2007 10:53:47 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8685 Fatah Al-Islam got split from Palestinian group Fatah al-Intifada in late 2006. They still live in the camps with the others. Now, they have weapons and are believed to have 150-200 armed men, based in Nahr al-Bared camp. Why did they split? From where are they getting the money and weapon if they have splitted from Fatah al-Intifida. I read they recruited people from different countries, how did they sneek in? What I see is Syria is interested to destabilize Lebanon, thus there is a high probability that they will help them if not support them. So, don't tell me Syria has nothing to it! Fatah Al-Islam got split from Palestinian group Fatah al-Intifada in late 2006. They still live in the camps with the others. Now, they have weapons and are believed to have 150-200 armed men, based in Nahr al-Bared camp.
Why did they split? From where are they getting the money and weapon if they have splitted from Fatah al-Intifida. I read they recruited people from different countries, how did they sneek in? What I see is Syria is interested to destabilize Lebanon, thus there is a high probability that they will help them if not support them. So, don’t tell me Syria has nothing to it!

]]> By: JoseyWales http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8684 JoseyWales Tue, 22 May 2007 10:43:21 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8684 Ok some of it is Lebanese idiocy and some of it is Syrian criminality. What matters now is that this group and others need to be eradicated and the camps need to be policed by Lebanese authority. I don't care who supports them, or give them money, if it weakens the friggin Palestian cause or if it upsets some Saudi freaks or whatever. And yes Saniora was lax on those guys, in Saida and elsewhere. Ok some of it is Lebanese idiocy and some of it is Syrian criminality.

What matters now is that this group and others need to be eradicated and the camps need to be policed by Lebanese authority.

I don’t care who supports them, or give them money, if it weakens the friggin Palestian cause or if it upsets some Saudi freaks or whatever.

And yes Saniora was lax on those guys, in Saida and elsewhere.

]]> By: Jeha http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8683 Jeha Tue, 22 May 2007 09:31:16 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8683 Ali makes a good point; this baby has many proud parents. While Syria is one of the most notable contributors, our past complacency and our continued procrastination served as valuable midwives. Ali makes a good point; this baby has many proud parents.

While Syria is one of the most notable contributors, our past complacency and our continued procrastination served as valuable midwives.

]]> By: Vox P. http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8678 Vox P. Tue, 22 May 2007 04:11:57 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8678 Why is Fatah fighting Fatah-el-Islam, while the syrian-controlled Fatah-Intifada is letting Fatah-el-Islam settle in the camps they control? (I understand that the whole thing seems complicated to westerners :) Why is Fatah fighting Fatah-el-Islam, while the syrian-controlled Fatah-Intifada is letting Fatah-el-Islam settle in the camps they control?

(I understand that the whole thing seems complicated to westerners :)

]]> By: D http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8677 D Tue, 22 May 2007 04:09:06 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8677 Ibn Kais Says, learn to read. He's not defending Syria. It's ironic how idiotic the anti-Syrian crowd is, blaming Syria for everything wrong with Lebanon is as lame as blaming Israel and the U.S. for everything wrong with Lebanon. Ibn Kais Says, do you remember what happened in Hama in 1982? Come back and tell me if Syria would support al-Qaeda, idiot. The constant asskissing towards the neo-conservatives on here is laughable at best. Ibn Kais Says, try refuting what he said instead of engaging in ad-hominem attacks. Oh wait, you can't! My bad. Ibn Kais Says, learn to read. He’s not defending Syria. It’s ironic how idiotic the anti-Syrian crowd is, blaming Syria for everything wrong with Lebanon is as lame as blaming Israel and the U.S. for everything wrong with Lebanon.

Ibn Kais Says, do you remember what happened in Hama in 1982? Come back and tell me if Syria would support al-Qaeda, idiot.

The constant asskissing towards the neo-conservatives on here is laughable at best.

Ibn Kais Says, try refuting what he said instead of engaging in ad-hominem attacks. Oh wait, you can’t! My bad.

]]> By: whywesteppin http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8674 whywesteppin Tue, 22 May 2007 00:40:27 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8674 No offense to Ali, but why not go straight to the source to get the official Syrian position? Syria's ambassador to the UN explained things for us: ---------------------------- "Every time there is a meeting in the Security Council to deal with the Lebanese crisis, one or two days before the Council meets, there is some kind of trouble, either assassinations, or explosions or attempts to assassinate somebody," Jaafari told reporters in New York. "This is not a coincidence...Some people are trying to influence the Security Council and to make pressure on the Council so they can go ahead with the adoption of the draft resolution on the tribunal," he added, without elaborating. ... "They are fighting on behalf of al-Qaida. Their activities are related to terrorism," he added. ---------------------------- To respond to Ali, what does Syria gain out of this? Well, the tribunal would've been established last year if it wasn't for all the violence and drama since November. No offense to Ali, but why not go straight to the source to get the official Syrian position? Syria’s ambassador to the UN explained things for us:

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“Every time there is a meeting in the Security Council to deal with the Lebanese crisis, one or two days before the Council meets, there is some kind of trouble, either assassinations, or explosions or attempts to assassinate somebody,” Jaafari told reporters in New York.

“This is not a coincidence…Some people are trying to influence the Security Council and to make pressure on the Council so they can go ahead with the adoption of the draft resolution on the tribunal,” he added, without elaborating.

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“They are fighting on behalf of al-Qaida. Their activities are related to terrorism,” he added.
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To respond to Ali, what does Syria gain out of this? Well, the tribunal would’ve been established last year if it wasn’t for all the violence and drama since November.

]]> By: Ibn Kais http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-8672 Ibn Kais Mon, 21 May 2007 23:33:18 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2007/05/21/syrias-defense/#comment-8672 Blah blah blah. Quit defending Syria, these guys were in Syrian jail before being sent to Lebanon. Quit trying to make sense out of it, we've heard that before. The only country that harbors and trains terrorist groups like that in this area is Syria. It is time to bring Bashar to justice along with his killing clan. Blah blah blah. Quit defending Syria, these guys were in Syrian jail before being sent to Lebanon. Quit trying to make sense out of it, we’ve heard that before. The only country that harbors and trains terrorist groups like that in this area is Syria. It is time to bring Bashar to justice along with his killing clan.

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