Syria’s Defense
Ali, a reader, believes that it doesn’t make sense blaming Syria in the latest attacks. In a previous comment section, he wrote:
Fateh el Islam split off Fateh-el-intifada (the latter a Syrian creation) precisely because they did not want to tow the Syrian intelligence line. This was their own admission. This is an extreme Sunni organization which views Alawis and the Shia on par with the Israelis and Americans, if not worse. So why exactly does Syria finance and support an organization that regards it as heretic and sees it and its allies as the enemy?
And it seems to me that after so many alleged assassinations and aims at “destabilizing” Lebanon as the March 14th camp claims , that Syria only gets deeper in the hole, and brings even more timely pressure on itself by the US and its typical international chorus, and precipitates even more vociferous calls to push the tribunal through Chapter 7 that you would think they would have learned their lesson and laid low for a while, no? You would think that they would have realized that every time an assassination takes place, every time a bomb blows off somewhere, where the gov’t camp pounces on it and exploits it to immediate political gain at the regional and international expense of Syria, lending their weakened voice some further life, that the Syrians would have learned their lesson and come to understand that they cannot compete with the power and reach of the Saatchi and Saatchi crowd?
And now, exactly what gains does Syria get out of this, except the usual condemnation without proof based on the claims and innuendos of a discredited clique who are holding on for dear life at the behest of a falling and fallen empire who only a year ago conspired and bombed their country into the stone age, and resisting (this is the only resisting they know) and fighting calls for new parliamentarian elections while unashamedly claiming to be the voice of the majority? If you are the voice of the majority, then give the majority the opportunity to vote you back in. Then you can legitimately shut the other camps down once and for all.
Syria is not without sin. But the puerile trust you have in a political faction to guide and lead you even while we all stand at the edge of the abyss is precisely why we are in the mess we find our selves in.
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Blah blah blah. Quit defending Syria, these guys were in Syrian jail before being sent to Lebanon. Quit trying to make sense out of it, we’ve heard that before. The only country that harbors and trains terrorist groups like that in this area is Syria. It is time to bring Bashar to justice along with his killing clan.
No offense to Ali, but why not go straight to the source to get the official Syrian position? Syria’s ambassador to the UN explained things for us:
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“Every time there is a meeting in the Security Council to deal with the Lebanese crisis, one or two days before the Council meets, there is some kind of trouble, either assassinations, or explosions or attempts to assassinate somebody,” Jaafari told reporters in New York.
“This is not a coincidence…Some people are trying to influence the Security Council and to make pressure on the Council so they can go ahead with the adoption of the draft resolution on the tribunal,” he added, without elaborating.
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“They are fighting on behalf of al-Qaida. Their activities are related to terrorism,” he added.
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To respond to Ali, what does Syria gain out of this? Well, the tribunal would’ve been established last year if it wasn’t for all the violence and drama since November.
Ibn Kais Says, learn to read. He’s not defending Syria. It’s ironic how idiotic the anti-Syrian crowd is, blaming Syria for everything wrong with Lebanon is as lame as blaming Israel and the U.S. for everything wrong with Lebanon.
Ibn Kais Says, do you remember what happened in Hama in 1982? Come back and tell me if Syria would support al-Qaeda, idiot.
The constant asskissing towards the neo-conservatives on here is laughable at best.
Ibn Kais Says, try refuting what he said instead of engaging in ad-hominem attacks. Oh wait, you can’t! My bad.
Why is Fatah fighting Fatah-el-Islam, while the syrian-controlled Fatah-Intifada is letting Fatah-el-Islam settle in the camps they control?
(I understand that the whole thing seems complicated to westerners :)
Ali makes a good point; this baby has many proud parents.
While Syria is one of the most notable contributors, our past complacency and our continued procrastination served as valuable midwives.
Ok some of it is Lebanese idiocy and some of it is Syrian criminality.
What matters now is that this group and others need to be eradicated and the camps need to be policed by Lebanese authority.
I don’t care who supports them, or give them money, if it weakens the friggin Palestian cause or if it upsets some Saudi freaks or whatever.
And yes Saniora was lax on those guys, in Saida and elsewhere.
Fatah Al-Islam got split from Palestinian group Fatah al-Intifada in late 2006. They still live in the camps with the others. Now, they have weapons and are believed to have 150-200 armed men, based in Nahr al-Bared camp.
Why did they split? From where are they getting the money and weapon if they have splitted from Fatah al-Intifida. I read they recruited people from different countries, how did they sneek in? What I see is Syria is interested to destabilize Lebanon, thus there is a high probability that they will help them if not support them. So, don’t tell me Syria has nothing to it!
The opinion of Ali logically speaking makes sense, but unfortunately the normal logic has no place in Syrian politics. The only logic that they have is Terror, sorry Ali I dnt mean to disappoint you but Hizballah and Aoun and Fateh and whoever is alligned with Syria now is not an ally it is a tool to use against Lebanon.
Using Hizballah didnt work
Using Explosions didnt work
Killing Free People didnt work
Paralyzing the country didnt work
Paralysing the institutions didnt work
Getting Foreign fighters and engage the in battle with Lebanse Army also will not work.
I believe they are running out of cards and let us hope it is the last one!
D,
It is obvious you’re a Syrian agent as it is fairly obvious who has used these tactics in the past to destabilize Lebanon. Your Syrian masters will be taught a lesson though. You’re just another agent of the criminal cowards, or maybe, you’re seriously retarded and has been brainwashed by Syria’s propaganda.
The only idiots in this field are those who fall for the who dunnit murder mystery,trying to justify that Syria cannot be that stupid….Newsflash Hamasnis are that stupid,so stupid that they see the rest of the world from their limited if not backward vision,M is right,Syrias used up all their cards,lets be patient with the government bashers,and hope the tribunal delivers.
I’m not sure I can trust the thinking of anyone who says that you can “tow a line” (pull a rope, maybe?) instead of “toe a line” (stand where you’re told to). 8-D
Syria’s nightmare would be having 3 democracies on its borders. And it’s so FAR from Mother Iran! Oh, dear, what to do …?? I know; Let’s try Terrorism! That’ll work!!
“Coincidence” does not exist in the political vocabulary; to uncover the recent situation, one has to realize the benifactor from the escalating events. Syria is the main benifactor from Lebanon’s ills on many fronts:
*This week the International Tribunal will be set in motion, it will be a major headliner for the world public opinion to read; the events in Lebanon stole the headline.
*Syria’s economy will benefit from the bloody events in Lebanon; Syria hopes its tourism will pick up again on the misfortunes of their neighbours.
*Syria can point the finger at the Lebanese government and accusing it as dysfunctional.
Sure Syria is behind Fath Al Islam group;it is war by proxy.
Guys,
Did anyone see the article from Simon H. in an American magazine that the news was talking about before. The article said that Future Movement is the one who created Fateh Al Islam?
I like to see what kind of proof that bastard (Simon H.) is talking about?
I found it. It is Seymour Hersh (or hish!)
and not Simon H.
:)