Comments on: A Plan For Victory http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/ Blogging Lebanese politics, business and society since 2005 Tue, 22 May 2012 18:28:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Syrians Flocking To Lebanon To Use Facebook | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1946 Syrians Flocking To Lebanon To Use Facebook | The Beirut Spring, a Lebanese Blog Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:28:13 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1946 [...] I argued before that since Syria uses brutal force to influence Lebanese politics, it is only fair for us the Lebanese to use our competitive advantage -namely open society and free flow of information- to influence Syrian politics. [...] [...] I argued before that since Syria uses brutal force to influence Lebanese politics, it is only fair for us the Lebanese to use our competitive advantage -namely open society and free flow of information- to influence Syrian politics. [...]

]]> By: Joe Noory http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1932 Joe Noory Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:56:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1932 Simpler still, all those Syrians who are still working there could be infected with a little bit of democratic civilization to take home with them after the construction season in over... Simpler still, all those Syrians who are still working there could be infected with a little bit of democratic civilization to take home with them after the construction season in over…

]]> By: Anonymous http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1933 Anonymous Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:25:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1933 Mustapha, Regime change is a syrian responsibility and no one else's. We should not interfere in their internal affairs regardless of their actions and interference in ours. Whatever they do from now on is counter-productive.<BR/><BR/>Let us mind our own business and focus on changing our regime . I cannot understand why Lahoud is still allowed to remain in power and the security establishment has not been shaken up.<BR/><BR/>"It doesn’t matter who’s wrong and who’s right, all that matters is playing the game right. Are we up for the challenge?"<BR/><BR/>It does matter. We now have the moral high ground and we should not squander it to engage in Machevellian games.<BR/><BR/>I do agree with you that we should give a forum and refuge to Syrian dissidents in Lebanon but we should refrain from the MB training camps of the 80's.<BR/><BR/>The regime is gasping its last breaths Mustapha, Regime change is a syrian responsibility and no one else’s. We should not interfere in their internal affairs regardless of their actions and interference in ours. Whatever they do from now on is counter-productive.

Let us mind our own business and focus on changing our regime . I cannot understand why Lahoud is still allowed to remain in power and the security establishment has not been shaken up.

“It doesn’t matter who’s wrong and who’s right, all that matters is playing the game right. Are we up for the challenge?”

It does matter. We now have the moral high ground and we should not squander it to engage in Machevellian games.

I do agree with you that we should give a forum and refuge to Syrian dissidents in Lebanon but we should refrain from the MB training camps of the 80′s.

The regime is gasping its last breaths

]]> By: zobahhan http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1934 zobahhan Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:11:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1934 Syria short of targets...shorter than when they were in lebanon? <BR/><BR/>I believe his voice of opposition has always been important and an issue. They couldve knocked him out long time ago...theres no reason to do it now. Plus, there are more important targets right now....what? the syrians cant get to them? haha.<BR/><BR/>please be more sane with the replies. Right now im actually real hungry, i need food. Medication isnt something hmo has been able to subsidize. Sorry. Syria short of targets…shorter than when they were in lebanon?

I believe his voice of opposition has always been important and an issue. They couldve knocked him out long time ago…theres no reason to do it now. Plus, there are more important targets right now….what? the syrians cant get to them? haha.

please be more sane with the replies. Right now im actually real hungry, i need food. Medication isnt something hmo has been able to subsidize. Sorry.

]]> By: Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1935 Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:29:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1935 "Why didnt they shut him out while they were there?"<BR/><BR/>Maybe because he wasn't important at the time and that Syria is short of targets?<BR/><BR/>You don't need food, you need water. For your medication. “Why didnt they shut him out while they were there?”

Maybe because he wasn’t important at the time and that Syria is short of targets?

You don’t need food, you need water. For your medication.

]]> By: zobahhan http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1936 zobahhan Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:39:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1936 Ok..." both Samir and Gebran got killed when they started inciting the Syrians against their regimes."<BR/><BR/>Gebran has been badmouthing since the 1970's and was even voiceferous during syria's occupation. Why didnt they shut him out while they were there? They couldve done it in a much quieter way and without much "attention?" <BR/><BR/>Now that...is food for thought. Ok…” both Samir and Gebran got killed when they started inciting the Syrians against their regimes.”

Gebran has been badmouthing since the 1970′s and was even voiceferous during syria’s occupation. Why didnt they shut him out while they were there? They couldve done it in a much quieter way and without much “attention?”

Now that…is food for thought.

]]> By: WB http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1937 WB Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:35:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1937 Hi Moustapha, <BR/>Although I like your plan, the first step is missing. We need to be first united in Lebanon to be able to follow your action plan. Do you think journalists will be as daring as the late Gebran Tueni knowing that their government can’t protect them? Which brings to elaborate more on the first step that I am suggesting. We need a strong homogeneous government. Everything that happened since the election does not make sense. I don’t understand how the Harirists and the Jumblatists find HA a closer ally than the FPM. Even more “stupid” was the formation of the government. The “Majority” gave away the most important ministries: the external affair and the justice. How stupid is that? Why this government is so sensitive to HA who openly backs Syria while all the base of the Cedar revolution is against Syria? How will this government show determination if they are begging the ministers who walked away to come back? It makes me angry that the Harirists and the Jumblatisits are giving up all the strength gained by the Cedar revolution. And ironically Gebran mentioned it many times that the liberation forces need to be united, the fight for independence is not done yet and unfortunately he paid the price for this division. In short, the Harirists and the Jumblatists were happy to have the service ministries (they want to be re-elected) and Aoun just wants to be president: this is the bottom line. So before we start changing the Syrian regime, some self-criticism is needed and our Cedar Revolution needs to be re-thought. We need what is called “Cedar Revolution part II”. Hi Moustapha,
Although I like your plan, the first step is missing. We need to be first united in Lebanon to be able to follow your action plan. Do you think journalists will be as daring as the late Gebran Tueni knowing that their government can’t protect them? Which brings to elaborate more on the first step that I am suggesting. We need a strong homogeneous government. Everything that happened since the election does not make sense. I don’t understand how the Harirists and the Jumblatists find HA a closer ally than the FPM. Even more “stupid” was the formation of the government. The “Majority” gave away the most important ministries: the external affair and the justice. How stupid is that? Why this government is so sensitive to HA who openly backs Syria while all the base of the Cedar revolution is against Syria? How will this government show determination if they are begging the ministers who walked away to come back? It makes me angry that the Harirists and the Jumblatisits are giving up all the strength gained by the Cedar revolution. And ironically Gebran mentioned it many times that the liberation forces need to be united, the fight for independence is not done yet and unfortunately he paid the price for this division. In short, the Harirists and the Jumblatists were happy to have the service ministries (they want to be re-elected) and Aoun just wants to be president: this is the bottom line. So before we start changing the Syrian regime, some self-criticism is needed and our Cedar Revolution needs to be re-thought. We need what is called “Cedar Revolution part II”.

]]> By: Anonymous http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1938 Anonymous Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:42:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1938 The question is not what to do but who<BR/>is next.<BR/>Before a fight you need to determine<BR/>who is the enemy.<BR/>I did not hear the Lebanese government<BR/>saying who is the enemy.<BR/>Am I deaf? The question is not what to do but who
is next.
Before a fight you need to determine
who is the enemy.
I did not hear the Lebanese government
saying who is the enemy.
Am I deaf?

]]> By: Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1939 Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:03:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1939 OK my mistake then OK my mistake then

]]> By: AbdulKarim http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1940 AbdulKarim Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:13:00 +0000 http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/12/15/plan-for-victory/#comment-1940 Vox, no one knew that Tweini returned. Not even his closest friends. Thats according to the media. Even at An-Nahar, they weren't expecting him that day. Vox, no one knew that Tweini returned. Not even his closest friends. Thats according to the media. Even at An-Nahar, they weren’t expecting him that day.

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