It is crucially important to make a distinction between small steps that are is essence palliative measures and meaningful radical change that is needed to exorcise the societal deamons so to speak.
I submit that all palliative measures are in effect an attempt to avoid dealing with reality , they amount to a grave methodological error: deal with the symptoms and forget the cause. An analogy might be appropriate in this case: If a patient’s condition calls for a radical procedure then prescribing pain killers will not deal with the real ailment.
A procedural rapprochment in Lebanon along the lines of the 1958 solution “no winners , No losers” has caused the wound to fester and the disease to ultimately spread. We must not be attracted by the promise of short term stability at the expense of allowing the real issue to go untreated.
Civil society cannot prosper unless a secular society is established. That simply means that there should be no room for Bkirki, the Mufti or Immams in the political process except in their roles as private citizens. This also implies that the politicians will no longer seek positions based on what is good for the Christians or Moslems. The only acceptable yardstick should be the commonwealth. A position is good if it advances the wellbeing of Lebanon , it is wrong if it does otherwise.
Theses should be our two national goals. The march towards them will not be easy but along the way we should not settle for anything else.

Ghassan i totally agree with you. I believe that we need a new Lebanon, one where we have civil marriage, one where the politicians are the best man for the job and not the best man in the required sect for the job. Lebanon must learn to move forward and accept people for who they are and not where they come from. Religion and state must be separated they are force that can’t work together in a country with 17 different sects.

Mr filth i believe that you are still stuck somewhere in the past. Its funny that you mentioned an American Palistinian born in the 40’s. An American Palestinian would know better than to generalize a country. It seems that while many have managed to move on to brighter futures some of us are still stuck in a time of war caused by your beloved people. We made a mistake once but, i have faith in a great Lebanon. I won’t take myself down to your level but i can say that this comes from a free Lebanese to a might one day maybe Palestinian.

A Lebanese Canadian

This is a reply to the American Palestinian,

I am sorry that you feel this way my friend. But please let me tell you that this is not a constructive way reach out with your opinions.

You have the right to your own opinions but let me give you a little advice. “If you keep up with this negative approach you won’t accomplish objectives”

Maybe you should watch the CNN more often my friend to also realize how FILTHY and corrupt are some of the American Politicians (Congressman resigns after bribery plea, California Republican admits selling influence for $2.4 million, http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/28/cunningham/index.html), corruption is everywhere, not just in Lebanon my friend. So please lay-off and give the Lebanese people a break, we are trying to sort out our own issues in a democratic way, so please leave us alone for a while and stop intruding like always in our affairs (Remember that the most powerful democratic country (the United States of America) faced a civil war.

Thank you

Palestine for ever, Lebanon for Eternity

From Montreal
Mustapha’s Bro

The interesting thing is that you only need an idiot Palestinian making hate statements to inflame the other commenters.

It’s the same thing with the rest of Lebanon. The smallest sectarian incident can trigger a chain of events, people must be prudent. Haven’t you learn from the past?

Vox, it’s that old Mediterranean hot temper.

It seems we have another Vic on our hands: posting the same crap on all blogs, at all times. Except this one is less amusing.

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Ghassan i agree with you and i really hope this procedure won’t take many generations to complete.
I trust the lebanese on that,and i truly support your opinion.
As for that palestinian man,let him bark.Lebanese have suffered enough from the syrian and the palestinians.It is time for them to go away.As the wise person said:
“ANJAS SHAEB BI ATHAR ARED”.See how ungratefull this jealous people are.

I regret responding to this idiot on Lebanese Bloggers.

Copy pasting the same crap everywhere. Very original

Mustapha,
What is going on?
These comments, the swearing… it’s discgusting. Very sad too.

Ghassan,
I hope your vision will become a reality… unfortunately, I dount it will happen tomorrow.

Is it just me or does anyone else get the feeling that someone here doesn’t like us? Man, that’s put a damper on my day…
I agree with ghassan insofar as all this good news seems to be intent on calming immediate fears rather than shaping a long-term policy. I can’t help but feel there is a hidden agenda behind it, apart from the obvious.

Alright,

I have deleted all the comments with obscenity and hate to racial groups.

But for the sake of the well written responses, I will re-post a censored version of Palestinian in America’s post:

Lebanese XXXX.
If it weren’t for the Assad’s family you’d have burned your entire XXXXXX so-called country. If it weren’t to Syria you would have been now way too far from the last state on Worst- countries-of-the-world list.
It’s very simple : If Syria burns, Lebanon will go to hell. So stop your filth and go get a job.
Lebanon will burn. it’s the sad fact that made Syrian Army comes into Lebanon to STOP YOUR FILTHY WAR!
Since ages, you have been good only at killing each other and conspiring against each other. It’s in your blood, face it! Without some heavy military boots on your necks, you’d never be able to survive. Simply because you are NOT A COUNTRY and has never been one!
If Syria left this time, it’ll be back to you one day. It’s a matter of time, believe me. You can’t handle a country, a government, an army; you can’t handle but dancers and singers. That’s Lebanon and that’s its fate.
Geographically, politically, and economically, and historically Lebanon is part of Syria and will always be. Your so-called unity right now is just a play, a very silly one in deed. You hate each other, you have a deep desire to kill each other, you belong to sects and then to so-called Lebanon.
After all, everyone knows that even those who are barking now against Syria can be bought and silenced easily when the USA ends up doing a deal with Syria (because what matters to the USA is Syria of course, not “Casino Lebnan” heh heh heh
Poor Lebanese , they are TOO SURE the USA NEEDS THEM! Sorry folks, this is a big game and you have no place in it. Remember when Syria kicked Aoun’s ass?? Who would have thought of that years before it happened? It’s really clear, the USA, Europe, and even Israel know that Lebanon and Lebanese can’t survive the slightest wind without messing up everything. The Big Brother will be back, though you are mistaken if you think he left Like in the seventies, your people threw rice and flowers on the marching Syrian Army, in a while the same ones were throwing bombs - everything (mainly people) can be bought in Lebanon. It’s a huge super market with price for everything and everyone in it.
I’m an American Palestinian by the way. I’m not a big fan of the Syrian regime,(can’t even enter Syria since I was born in the 1948- part) but I’m a total despiser of Lebanese filthiness and treasury.
We suffered in Lebanon more than we suffered in Israel. I know you’ll say it was the Syrians – just shut up. If it weren’t for your dirty and cheap attitudes, Syria wouldn’t have gotten involved in that blood shed.
I hope I’ll live to see that day when those Lebanese XXXX who don’t know even where Palestine is, will be running to hide their XXXXXXX from marching Syrian or Israeli soldiers.
XXXX you
Palestine for ever, Lebanon will be never!

Palestinians are the definition of filth, corruption, ungrateful beings, you are more hated than the jews, you were kicked out of every country you went to, you came took advantage of our hospitality and tried taking advantage of us… you have some nerve talking about the lebanese people… you palestinians have nothing going for you, bunch of militant, terrorists!!!

It seems obvious to me from afar that these folks who wish engage in the democratic process of exchanging ideas in lieu of killing each other are finally understanding the will of the people.

There will always be differences of opinion, but it is more important right now to find what common ground there is between the parties and build a concencus from there.

People in Lebanon in particular and the Middle-East in general are sick of the fighting. Every major armed faction holds power in their little domains but the people of Lebanon as a whole are tired of ALL of them.

It’s time to get a democracy running full tilt, grow an economy that was once the envy of that part of the world(Tourism will benefit greatly when the fighting stops) and the population as a whole will much better for it.

Some how it seems they are no longer stuck on stupid.

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