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		<title>By: Maya</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1422</link>
		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josey,&lt;BR/&gt;I&#039;m half French (you were looking for a French blogger), but my blog is mainly about Lebanon. I haven&#039;t posted on the French issue because I am blown away by the proportions these events are taking place. I have trouble &quot;digesting&quot; and making sense of them. &lt;BR/&gt;Maybe I will post about it later this week. &lt;BR/&gt;I don&#039;t know about the rest of the French bloggers out there or how they feel about it. Have you tried Google&#039;s blog search engine: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch ?&lt;BR/&gt;I found one in English&lt;BR/&gt;http://benedictblog.com/&lt;BR/&gt;Of course, running the search in French helps since most French people speak only French!&lt;BR/&gt;http://bigblogis.blogspot.com/&lt;BR/&gt;http://michaelbullara.blogs.com/le_blog_de_michal_bullara/&lt;BR/&gt;just to name a few&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually, I wonder if blogs haven&#039;t contributed to the spread of violence in France, connecting youth across the country through discussions and propoaganda... any thoughts?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh! and last anon, FYI there are plenty of Africans (mainly Senegalese) who are Muslims. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(Sorry about the format for my web adresses, I&#039;m not sure how to turn it ino a link here if anyone could help me with that for future reference!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josey,<br />I&#8217;m half French (you were looking for a French blogger), but my blog is mainly about Lebanon. I haven&#8217;t posted on the French issue because I am blown away by the proportions these events are taking place. I have trouble &#8220;digesting&#8221; and making sense of them. <br />Maybe I will post about it later this week. <br />I don&#8217;t know about the rest of the French bloggers out there or how they feel about it. Have you tried Google&#8217;s blog search engine: <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch" rel="nofollow">http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch</a> ?<br />I found one in English<br /><a href="http://benedictblog.com/" rel="nofollow">http://benedictblog.com/</a><br />Of course, running the search in French helps since most French people speak only French!<br /><a href="http://bigblogis.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://bigblogis.blogspot.com/</a><br /><a href="http://michaelbullara.blogs.com/le_blog_de_michal_bullara/" rel="nofollow">http://michaelbullara.blogs.com/le_blog_de_michal_bullara/</a><br />just to name a few</p>
<p>Actually, I wonder if blogs haven&#8217;t contributed to the spread of violence in France, connecting youth across the country through discussions and propoaganda&#8230; any thoughts?</p>
<p>Oh! and last anon, FYI there are plenty of Africans (mainly Senegalese) who are Muslims. </p>
<p>(Sorry about the format for my web adresses, I&#8217;m not sure how to turn it ino a link here if anyone could help me with that for future reference!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mustapha</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1423</link>
		<dc:creator>Mustapha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Issam, I showcased your comment as a new post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Issam, I showcased your comment as a new post.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1424</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are Snegalese and Africans in these riots. True, most of the mob comes from a Muslim bacground, but from a poor Muslim background - you can&#039;t dismiss social factors altogether. I lived in France and I speak a perfect French, but I can tell you that the French society has a relatively low acceptance of immigration. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And read le Figaro, not le Monde.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are Snegalese and Africans in these riots. True, most of the mob comes from a Muslim bacground, but from a poor Muslim background &#8211; you can&#8217;t dismiss social factors altogether. I lived in France and I speak a perfect French, but I can tell you that the French society has a relatively low acceptance of immigration. </p>
<p>And read le Figaro, not le Monde.</p>
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		<title>By: Nano</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Nano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY MUSTAPHA,KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK.I AM REALLY SURPRISED,FRENCH WERE NOT KNOWN AS RACIST.WHAT MADE THIS CHANGE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY MUSTAPHA,KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK.I AM REALLY SURPRISED,FRENCH WERE NOT KNOWN AS RACIST.WHAT MADE THIS CHANGE?</p>
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		<title>By: jamal</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1426</link>
		<dc:creator>jamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddiep, your posts shows your evident level of bias.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ive listed some otherFrench Perspectives too:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://opinionated.blogsome.com/2005/11/06/islam-didnt-cause-the-french-riots/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Islam Didn’t Cause The French Riots&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddiep, your posts shows your evident level of bias.</p>
<p>Ive listed some otherFrench Perspectives too:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://opinionated.blogsome.com/2005/11/06/islam-didnt-cause-the-french-riots/" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Islam Didn’t Cause The French Riots</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mustapha</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>Mustapha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://okrasoup.typepad.com/black_looks/2005/11/_members_of_par.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s&lt;/A&gt; a very good roundup of the Paris Riots from a French Perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://okrasoup.typepad.com/black_looks/2005/11/_members_of_par.html" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s</a> a very good roundup of the Paris Riots from a French Perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Unfrozen Caveman Linguist</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>Unfrozen Caveman Linguist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The decline of Islamic society as internationally vital started long before 2001 or even 1979, basically mirroring the decline of the Ottoman Empire.  The rise of radicalism and subsequent terrorism is but a symptom, not a cause, of Islamic weakness in the international arena.  Mustapha is right - Muslims need to hold themselves to higher standards if they want to be taken seriously, and it does not help that European governments pander to lowered expectations in the name of &quot;multiculturalism.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The decline of Islamic society as internationally vital started long before 2001 or even 1979, basically mirroring the decline of the Ottoman Empire.  The rise of radicalism and subsequent terrorism is but a symptom, not a cause, of Islamic weakness in the international arena.  Mustapha is right &#8211; Muslims need to hold themselves to higher standards if they want to be taken seriously, and it does not help that European governments pander to lowered expectations in the name of &#8220;multiculturalism.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Victorino de la Vega</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Victorino de la Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic how pro-Israeli as well as Saudi-controlled Islamic fundamentalist media are actually (for once) BOTH 100% aligned with the official Neocon talking points coming from Washington: I happen to know France fairly well and the truth is that the so-called “North-African riots all around the French capital” are just minor incidents involving a handful of disaffected Muslim teenagers…&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This factual reality seems to have evaded the Jerusalem Post and Al-Arabbya’s highly imaginative journalists: why bother with boring facts when you can serve the colorful anti-Gallic clichés cooked by Dick Cheney and his Wahhabi fundamentalist friend cum business partner-in-crime Prince Bandar Ibn-Saud??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic how pro-Israeli as well as Saudi-controlled Islamic fundamentalist media are actually (for once) BOTH 100% aligned with the official Neocon talking points coming from Washington: I happen to know France fairly well and the truth is that the so-called “North-African riots all around the French capital” are just minor incidents involving a handful of disaffected Muslim teenagers…</p>
<p>This factual reality seems to have evaded the Jerusalem Post and Al-Arabbya’s highly imaginative journalists: why bother with boring facts when you can serve the colorful anti-Gallic clichés cooked by Dick Cheney and his Wahhabi fundamentalist friend cum business partner-in-crime Prince Bandar Ibn-Saud??</p>
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		<title>By: EddieP</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>EddieP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamal, with all due respect, the western states &quot;fighting&quot; terror is a very recent thing. For 25 years the United States took hits from the Islamists starting in 1979 Iran to 9-11. We just started fighting back 3 years ago. You have yet to face up to the fact that your religion has been hijacked by radicals and the peace won&#039;t come until muslims themselves reform their religion and guarantee basic human rights to all. Especially your own women that you treat like dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamal, with all due respect, the western states &#8220;fighting&#8221; terror is a very recent thing. For 25 years the United States took hits from the Islamists starting in 1979 Iran to 9-11. We just started fighting back 3 years ago. You have yet to face up to the fact that your religion has been hijacked by radicals and the peace won&#8217;t come until muslims themselves reform their religion and guarantee basic human rights to all. Especially your own women that you treat like dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mustapha</title>
		<link>http://beirutspring.com/blog/2005/11/06/intifada-in-paris/#comment-1431</link>
		<dc:creator>Mustapha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamal,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#039;m of the opinion that Islam is going through the &quot;drak ages&quot; because of &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://wmd.typepad.com/weapons_of_mass_destructi/2005/11/stopping_the_ri.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/A&gt;:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt; &quot;the report discusses a host of difficulties teachers encounter in dealing with specific subjects in the classroom. Most Muslim kids refuse to participate in sports or swimming, the girls out of modesty, the boys because they do not want to swim in &quot;girls&#039; water&quot; or &quot;non-Muslim water.&quot; When it comes to literature, French philosophers such as Voltaire and Rousseau are very often boycotted because of their supposed Islamophobia. Molière, the father of French satiric comedy, is among the writers most often boycotted.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for history, Muslim students object to its Judeo-Christian bias and blatant falsehood. They loudly protest the Crusades, and commonly deny the Holocaust. Under the circumstances, many teachers censor their own material, often skipping entire topics, like the history of Israel or of Christianity. The report cites one teacher who keeps a Koran on his desk for reference whenever a thorny issue arises. It cites Muslim students who refuse to use the plus sign in mathematics because it looks like a cross. Field trips, especially to churches, cathedrals, and monasteries, are boycotted.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Contrary to conventional wisdom, these pathologies are now present across France.&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamal,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of the opinion that Islam is going through the &#8220;drak ages&#8221; because of <a HREF="http://wmd.typepad.com/weapons_of_mass_destructi/2005/11/stopping_the_ri.html" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">this</a>:</p>
<p><i> &#8220;the report discusses a host of difficulties teachers encounter in dealing with specific subjects in the classroom. Most Muslim kids refuse to participate in sports or swimming, the girls out of modesty, the boys because they do not want to swim in &#8220;girls&#8217; water&#8221; or &#8220;non-Muslim water.&#8221; When it comes to literature, French philosophers such as Voltaire and Rousseau are very often boycotted because of their supposed Islamophobia. Molière, the father of French satiric comedy, is among the writers most often boycotted.</p>
<p>As for history, Muslim students object to its Judeo-Christian bias and blatant falsehood. They loudly protest the Crusades, and commonly deny the Holocaust. Under the circumstances, many teachers censor their own material, often skipping entire topics, like the history of Israel or of Christianity. The report cites one teacher who keeps a Koran on his desk for reference whenever a thorny issue arises. It cites Muslim students who refuse to use the plus sign in mathematics because it looks like a cross. Field trips, especially to churches, cathedrals, and monasteries, are boycotted.</p>
<p>Contrary to conventional wisdom, these pathologies are now present across France.</i></p>
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